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New 3d toys? II

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excellent modeling from Ripper!!
Russian AS-17!

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Re: New 3d toys? II

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AS.30 on the way!
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Re: New 3d toys? II

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Thats looking very sharp ccc

great work

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hey Widmkr, how's Iceland going? terrain guys are quiet lately.

one more toy done. AS.34 kormoran.

maybe Tornado could use it, someday.
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Hey ccc Iceland is going quite well.. Image

Got some great news and I will send you an email soon on they developments..
wont post any news at all till THEY discusion is over and I/we know were I stand.

I can now however produce a Falkland map for you with very airbase in...either in 64 or 128.... Image

I still got shaking knees from Wednesday..
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widmkr, i heartily appreciate your offering but, i need fully operation naval ships first. Julian, or eTeam showed us promising vhs clips, the carrier landing/takeoff, and moving ships, firing missiles, etc. all will be suspended Image
The worsest is, Snacko's post on simhq or frugals said he want this sim to be USAF sim Image

anyway, relax. we'll wait and see.

Dudi, your toys here. still need lots tweak.
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100% replica of Kufu Pyramid, photorealistic texture but..need tweak. Image
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quote:Originally posted by ccc:
widmkr, i heartily appreciate your offering but, i need fully operation naval ships first. Julian, or eTeam showed us promising vhs clips, the carrier landing/takeoff, and moving ships, firing missiles, etc. all will be suspended Image
The worsest is, Snacko's post on simhq or frugals said he want this sim to be USAF sim Image

--Hmm I've been following the boards closely
and I havent seen any statements as to Falcon5 being dumbed down..although some litesim new modes will be in to atract newbies the campaigns will be highfidelity
This is what I read...yet ccc maybey you could send me a link to they above mentioned post...I hate to be misinformed..and like to read it myself..
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anyway, relax. we'll wait and see.

Dudi, your toys here. still need lots tweak.
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100% replica of Kufu Pyramid, photorealistic texture but..need tweak. Image
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I mean the naval operation part.
Julian and eTeam is making progress in this field but, this could be halted on June 18.
thats all.
As for Snacko's policy about a land-base a/c sim, i read his post on simhq or frugal yesterday. got to search his posts later.
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hehe, one more, French Belouga cluster bomb!
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For those who didnt get a copy of LodEditor, i urge you grab one ASAP. Lots fun there!! Image

Here's some test, no serious:
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In this one, i fix the wing shape of F15, and re-map the inner side texture if F14 fins. Say, there are limits, i cant texture bottom sides of F14/F15 mainwing and elevators.

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this one shows a mig27 with modified nose, remaped front texture with a optical window on nosetip. Too bad the canopy poly is no way to modify?
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This one demostrates re-mapping of both sides of mainwing, inner sides of vertical fins.
Now asymmetrical camo on mig29 is doable! Image
well, if we expect we can upgrade these model to the same complexity of viper shape in near future(Julian's converter, or toolkit from Snacko?), we wont waste time on remap current shapes.
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A closer look at Mig27. fly with eFalcon's boosted FM. Image

Original mig23 skins by Basil, available at

http://swissflight.sim-arena.com
or Theater Skin Pack series.

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Where can I get the LOD Editor?
Thanks

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quote:Originally posted by WOLF-257:
Where can I get the LOD Editor?
Thanks

WOLF

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Thanks Widowmaker but for some reason it won't let me join.
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This time its a re-shaped and re-mapped mig21.

note the re-shaped canopy and flattened elevator plains. also asymmetrical camos on mainwing, elevator, and vertical fin.
much closer to The Real Thing(tm) Image
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and one more trick...make me feel much better Image
note:
1.the radome got no texture, i re-color it in dark gray, much better than flat black!
2.re-positon and lengthen landing gear.
3.not the gear, also re-colored!!

one more closer step to TRT(tm). however, no promise.


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Keep up the good work..
looking very good


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Widowmaker,

I can't join the group.If the Lod Editor is small enough to email could I trouble you to send it to me?
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Got it thanks,I'm going to spend some time reading the tutorials before a start screwing things up.
Thanks Again.

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CCC!
The nose, Cleopatra's nose!
She's got that refined rounded little bit pointing down nose that us men like.
I know u can do it Image
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Are you sure you dislike Mary's or Judy's nose? LOL Image

I'll check that. later.
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Thats the best i can do.
At least i feel better, since the first day i saw this shape in F4.
>> nose re-shaped.
>> gear lengthened, re-located.
Cant believe that, i corrected lots ugly parts! Image

The only thing cant do is, 30mm cannon wont fire from starboard after adjusting its DOF.



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The nose looks great!
Finally it has the designer's original shape
It is a rough shape but u got the angle right as far as i can see Image
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Hi CCC

Cool stuff, great work... and thanks for promoting my website... they won't find the skin, though... Image

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Aeyes, i got good 3-side line drawing first, then measure the plain of mainwing-elevator to nosetip. The real thing is about 2 degree down. Adjust shape vertices accrodingly!
Though i dont wnat this to be a serious project, I'll fix the front gear, go further lengthen it and add a larger tire, for the cause of TRT.
As for re-mapping part, I know there are lots faces need remapping, but i wont tough this part.

and Basil, welcome Image
now you learn why i wont do something..im just obscessed by the other Image Image
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This one concludes my mig29 tweak.
1. canopy front end tweaked, squarish rounded out.
2.front gear re-located and lengthened.
Thats all.
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This one just to remind Aeyes Image Image

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Re: New 3d toys? II

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Hi CCC

Yeah, I see... I must say, that MiG looks 100% better, really - the "old" one just looks odd, your one gives me the "feel" of MiG-29, which the old one didn't... cool!

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Hehehe CCC, u even see a chance to mess up the Migpit with the mig datfile lol Image
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Good job there with the Mig-29! Image
Have you adjusted the angle in the rear landing gear?

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quote:Originally posted by Hunter:
Good job there with the Mig-29! Image
Have you adjusted the angle in the rear landing gear?
Oops! You are really sharp. you touch my dark side..i suppose nobody will find this untill they got this LOD Image Image LOL
Frankly, i know this angular landing gear once i got 3-side view from Venik's site. just too lazy to model it.
OK, i'll spend another few minutes to tweak this, for the sake of TRT.
BTW, since you point this, I'd better confess more:
1.The diameter of landing gears pilars(all three) not tweaked yet, the front one need a fix exclusively, including its angle, and the steering parts. i wont work on this.
2.the front gear tyres are enlarged to fit the real thing.
3.we've a good chance to add landing gear door, or add a hook for K model, with current vertices. Since Dragon revealed me some new progress about LE, i stop this.
4.Im quite understood that the front section of airframe is too "thick", if we lower the height of canopy/pit/dorsal faring about 1/2 inch, the whole shape will be more slender and sharp, like the pic you post. just too many vertices to move.

anyway, we could go further to polish it, but dont expect the same details as those in MSFS freeware, or Flanker seris...untill Julian and Dragon show us the miracle...in near future Image

and one more, im serious about this, G2/F12 is about to working on F15C/E/Taiwan theater, this mean they could upgrade all models of first line a/c in FV, so, I'll turn my interest to something different. say, FV guys wont consider making a new shape for Belouga bomb in FV Image


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This is my final touch on mig29 a/c.
rear gear tweaked.
nosetip fine touched.
and if you are sharp enough, the radome is colored in two tone of gray!
thats all. I ever think of lower the height of canopy/dorsal fairing, which should significantly improve the shape, no, too many vertices.
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Great!
So... where can i get and enjoy it?
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Good job dude Image
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quote:Originally posted by Aeyes:
Great!
So... where can i get and enjoy it?
If stand-alone f4patch done or bundled with other major release...June, 2001 i think, Image Image

BTW, just to find the potential of upgrading is unlimited, we can soon add "afterburner nozzle texture" to replace those cartoonish colors!!
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Cool, check my own Pratt & Whitney nozzle texture. Image

First beta.

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Second beta.

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Re: New 3d toys? II

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Hunter,
your AB feather textures look cool.

my fault in last post, i dont mean the AB feather texture, i mean the "lighten-up" flaming texture inside the nozzle.
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oh!
I use one updated texture for that also.
Skin #32.
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CCC, don't you think the front mig-29 gear is a bit too thin?
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