F-14 Tomcat shoots down MIG23s in Libya

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PMC Libya Theater v0.1.1

FF5.5 install.
in campaign page, i check all three campaigns, all trigger its vid clips, but .. squadron selection map is not shown. unable to select nation and ac squadron for entering campaign.

[Snake Man]

What Falcon 4 version did you install it to?

[Sherlock]

What Falcon 4 version did you install it to?

He said FF5.5 in his post...

[ccc]

Collecting some info for historical libyan conflict tcl..

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ ... -orbat.htm

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Libyan AF OOB summary:
BASE --- Ac type / squadron number.
Umm Aitiqah MiG-23/UB /1203
Okbs ben Nafi Mirage F.1ED/BD /2 Mirage F.1AD/BD /1 Su-22M-2 /1032 Mi-24 /1
Misurata MiG-23MF/MS/UB /1 Mi-24 /1
Al Jufra-Hun MiG-25 /1025 TU-22B /1
Ghurdabiya-Sirte MiG-25 /1055 Su-24MK /1024 SU-22M-2 /1
Al Jufra-Hun MiG-25 /1
Sabha MiG-25 /1
Benina MiG-23 /1040, 1
Gamal Abdel Nasser MiG-23/UB /1060 MiG-21/2 Mi-24 /1
Al Bumbah MiG-23/UB /2 MiG-23BN/UB /1
Ghadames Su-22M-2 /1
Labraq MiG-23BN/UB /2
Ghudardabiya Mi-24 /1

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Alright.. it's ok now , campaign works. the first one has working sq, the rest two are blank.

could i have libya TCL for fun?

[Snake Man]

Okay sure, but these are not working in FF551 as the ground units cause crash.

[ccc]

Okay sure, but these are not working in FF551 as the ground units cause crash.

thanx.. i'll check if i can touch squadron part, leave along ground units.

BTW - i noted you remove most bridges in this theater!! great. the obj map looks much cleaner..
i tried to re-link some missing obj according to Google map - found many links suffer from high move cost - probably due to rivers.
i'll need Pheionix711's THR creator to remove rivers, see if it help lower obj-linking move cost...

[ccc]

map to show main libyan ABs.. well it seems military-sq based ones are few.


EDIT - Benina Intl airport, should be close to the east of Banghazi-Benina city.

[ccc]

i convert sq/ac type info into this tcl..
i put mi-24 sq in this tcl.. work or not?
and, missing few Libyia bases.. Al bumbah, Labraq, and Benina. so put their sq to nearby bases.

Code: Select all

set squadname 1

# front line airbases
MakeSquads [list "UMM AITIQAH" 5 {
	1 FIGHTER_MIG23ML
}]


MakeSquads [list "TRIPOLI INTL" 6 {
	1 AIRLIFT_IL76M
	1 AIRLIFT_C130H
	
}]


MakeSquads [list "OKBA IBN NAFA" 7 {
	1 ATTACK_SU17
	1 ATTACK_MI24
	2 FIGHTER_MIRAGEF1
}]


MakeSquads [list "MISURATA" 8 {
	1 FIGHTER_MIG23ML
	1 ATTACK_MI24
}]


MakeSquads [list "QARYAT AL KARMAL" 9 {
	2 FIGHTER_MIG23ML
	1 ATTACK_MIG23BN
}]



MakeSquads [list "GHURDABIYAH" 14 {
	1 FIGHTER_MIG25
	1 ATTACK_SU24M
	1 ATTACK_MI24
	1 ATTACK_SU17
}]



MakeSquads [list "GAMAL ABD EL NASSER" 10 {
	2 FIGHTER_MIG23ML
	1 FIGHTER_MIG21MF
	1 ATTACK_MI24
	1 ATTACK_MIG23BN
}]



MakeSquads [list "AL JUFRA" 29 {
	2 FIGHTER_MIG25
	1 BOMBER_TU22
}]


MakeSquads [list "New Ghadames" 22 {
	1 ATTACK_SU17
}]


MakeSquads [list "Sebha" 44 {
	1 FIGHTER_MIG25
}]

[Snake Man]

Yes you place helicopter squadrons the same as normal aircrafts, you just need to change the airbase ID to the army base ID where helicopters are located. I don't think helicopters work from airbase objective.

[ccc]

ok.. will change helo.
anyway it seems work pretty well.. su24 and tu22 attacking US carriers.. and all shot down at sea.

[Luk]

I don't think helicopters work from airbase objective.

I am sure, helicopters work from airstrips in AF. I am also operating one Mi8 and Mi24 East German squadron from Cottbus AB (1774 - O8_26_Airbase Rvr) and it works well. ATO is tasking the flights, I can also task.
Luk

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- Test run the cam for a while.. with the new OPFOR squadron tcl, Libya got more realistic(according to internet) sq deployment. the total ac sq are fewer, but the air activities is ok.

- since there're very few Mi-24 sq, i manually edit them to nearby army bases. well.. i did not notice any helo flights generated during test.. guess no calls for CAS?

- In current cam, Tunisia is allied with US..so Libya launches air strike on Tunisia, US sends air power from carriers. the obj-linking is broken at several areas, thus no ground movement noted. Hmm..To set up a scenerio like '80 bomb-Lybia, it still needs Tunisia as a victim side to help Lybia ATO generating missions... falcon ATO AI seems unable to generate PURE BARCAP/intercept/Antiship missons against an enemy side made of ships! that means historical 1986 conflicts can only be merged/converted into a working scenerio like Lybia-vs-US/Tunisia.

- my sq tcl works BUT.. it doesn't look like '80 OOB ! it seems missing mirage-5 and mi-8 type..

- tunisia air power - well.. most are europe-made helo. 1 sq of mb326, 1sq of F5E, and few C130/G222 at Sidi Ahmed.
http://www.scramble.nl/tn.htm

- Use no-river THR, try to re-link obj and lower move cost.. the result is not satisfactory.. still high in wheeled/tracked move cost over coastal plain desert dry land. could it be Tile issue? the slope is flat.

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reference links from Globalsecurity site..
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ ... bya/af.htm

This OOB list is one i used in tcl.. much fewer ac/sq.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ ... -orbat.htm

This link listed libyan ac type..much more than OOB list! it said half of 420 ac are out of order, or in storage!!
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ ... -equip.htm
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ ... fields.htm

[derStef]

any chance to get the ODS working in this theater?

setting up a test campaign atm!

[toonces]

You and I think very much alike Stef...

[demer928]

'Kay,got it Stef,

Look's like you will need some eye's in the sky if you go to ODS tiling.............Not going to happen' tomorrow.
IRAN use's SnakeMan's "Condensed" ODS .bin and tile set I'll try it that way.
BTW........I have now, a FF install on one of my HDD's, IF it kill's it,you will be responsible for recovering the lost data!!!!!!HAHAHAHAA!!!!!!

demer

[ccc]

hey demer..you're on it now?

i can't believe Libya top the headlines these days..NATO/US fighters and french carriers all gathering here..
wait - no italian carrier?

the scenerio could be - Blue has superb air dominance from NATO/US, Red has stronger Libya ground forces, and the ground war is between Libya army and Rebels..the combat route axis is E-W, goal is tripoli.

[derStef]

hey demer..you're on it now?

i can't believe Libya top the headlines these days..NATO/US fighters and french carriers all gathering here..
wait - no italian carrier?

the scenerio could be - Blue has superb air dominance from NATO/US, Red has stronger Libya ground forces, and the ground war is between Libya army and Rebels..the combat route axis is E-W, goal is tripoli.

hey CCC,
yeah as soon as Demer got other tiles (ODS or Israeli tiles) working in Libya, i am up for building a campaign... or better... i have already 1 raw one...

[ccc]

better wait somebody(demer?) finishing road system before making campaigns.

[demer928]

Here is a "Quick and Dirty" way to get PMC Libya Theater Flying in OF4.7:

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?pn6umwb3i84a3d7 for OF ONLY not needed for FF!!!!!

Install Instruction's are:
1. GoTo PMC (http://www.pmctactical.org/f4/d...ter_v0.1.1.rar) and run the current Libya Theater
2. After 6hrs. for the installer to complete (No Offense Snake..!!!! ) Reboot!!!!
3. DL'd the Zip and extract to your new Libya Theater (Overwrite all)
4. Open your OF4.7 and change your Theaer to Libya, THEN EXIT OF4.7!!!!!
5. Restart OF and go to TE Saved in the UI. Click on an AirBase and change it's Owner to US and add your Flight,then Save it.
6.Exit OF and re-enter, then join your flight

I have disabled the Campaign's (They don't work) Also IA will work, but no GroundObject's.

WARNING,WARNING!!!!!!!!!!............This was built on WINXProSP3 and I cannot provide support for other OS's.Use at your own risk!!!!!!!

Enjoy\Deploy\Get PO at me if you must!!!!!!!!
demer

Here is a small update to the OF te_new: http://www.mediafire.com/file/ydehaj...ibyate_new.zip
Backup your original te_new file, then unzip into your Libya Campaign folder.
You no longer have to switch owners for the AB's and a few other things I have forgotten now LOL


Also,to be fair,(Someone put me up to it )here is one for FF5.5.5: http://www.mediafire.com/file/73019qts5 ... te_new.zip
Install is basically the same as OF,but make sure you are using Snakes v1.1 installer,YOU DO NOT NEED the first package for FF!!!!! His installer places the file's correctly in FF.

Regards
demer

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info about latest op over Libya..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Ellamy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Op%C3%A9ration_Harmattan

many european weapons are used/tested in this theater now.. AASM, brimestone, and storm shadow/SCALP..

[demer928]

See previous post

Regards,
demer

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News said US A-10, B-1, and AC-130 gunship deployed to Libya..so, all major US fighters/attackers/bombers join this op again! ( the last one is Afghanstan theater).

for PMC theater, ideal ending TRI is Rebel GUs capturing Tripoli. if not, use [Ground force ratio] for ending point.