New 3d toys? XII

ccc · Post by **ccc** » 2001-08-25 01:51:00

Start a new thread to speed up loading.

this one for Vnam! note the transparnet dome window and textured motor nozzle.

Ender Wiggin · Post by **Ender Wiggin** » 2001-08-25 06:55:00

cool where can i get it?

ccc · Post by **ccc** » 2001-08-25 10:04:00

For general falconeers, wait Jerry's new patch. For experienced mod makers, get samples from F4LE and risk your f4 install.

one more, AIM-9D, Blowpipe, and small bomb for Jerry.

ccc · Post by **ccc** » 2001-08-25 13:45:00

one more.
skin by Shinobi, modified.

SHINOBI · Post by **SHINOBI** » 2001-08-25 16:08:00

Hey CCC, the ALARM skin looks horrible!
I'll try that thing you told me, like importing it with other F4Patch patches of weapons, then i'll be able to test my stuff before sending you this kind of... shit, i'd say.

I'm gonna add the coloured 'lines' try to enhace the watermarkings and all. Wish me luck!

Anyway, the 3D models look great!

ccc · Post by **ccc** » 2001-08-26 11:38:00

This one brings you some nice...but bloody memory in old Falcon3 days! the most feared toy to allied ground troops.

ccc · Post by **ccc** » 2001-08-26 14:38:00

one of my favorites!

icebrain · Post by **icebrain** » 2001-08-26 15:04:00

What is that?

T Bone · Post by **T Bone** » 2001-08-27 13:52:00

Looks good.

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T-Bone
F4ME Project

Hunter · Post by **Hunter** » 2001-08-27 13:58:00

Any of you doing this targeting pod?

quote:The Sniper comprises a high-resolution 3rd generation FLIR, a dual-mode laser and a CCD-TV along with a laser spot tracker and a laser marker.
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An additional feature of Sniper is its aircraft compatibility. Capable of being embedded or podded, Sniper technology is incorporated into Lockheed Martin's Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) design. The executive vice president and general manager of Lockheed Martin's (JSF) program, Tom Burbage, added, "The US Air Force's selection of Sniper XR for the Advanced Targeting Pod programme is a real benefit to the Lockheed Martin JSF team. The JSF Electro-Optical Targeting System (EOTS) is highly common with Sniper, and we are pleased that the Air Force has recognised the benefits of our high- performance modular EO system for its fighter aircraft."

ccc · Post by **ccc** » 2001-08-27 14:54:00

well, modeling such pod is quite different from missile/bombs.

better work on 3ds max first, then converted via LE.

the key point is, need good 3 side line drawings and good dimension data.

Dragon · Post by **Dragon** » 2001-08-27 16:00:00

These pods are part of the main F-16 model and are part of a Switch branch. The HTS Pod along with the Pave Penny pod are done this way. I was gonna texture them over the weekend but I couldnt find a good picture of either of them.

In order to get the targeting pod, you would need an EXE hack to allow for it to be turned on or you could just replace the Pave Penny with it.

Hunter · Post by **Hunter** » 2001-08-27 18:43:00

Dragon, i might have some good shots of those 2.

CCC, i was just wondering if someone was doing it. I can work on it...

Hunter · Post by **Hunter** » 2001-08-27 18:46:00

Btw, any one working on ships? I'm thinking in working on those as well.

Hunter · Post by **Hunter** » 2001-08-27 20:41:00

Thanks to my wingmate striker for this link.

http://www.missilesandfirecontrol.com/o ... ER_XR.html

I here is all info needed to make sniper targeting pod.

ccc · Post by **ccc** » 2001-08-28 00:58:00

ya Hunter, i surely know you can model it

Like Rick said, it need exe hack, probably F4superPAK can help. btw, to make that seeker turret turning like a DOF...could be way too complicated for exe hacking. then, can we live with a fixed turret like default pods?

ccc · Post by **ccc** » 2001-08-28 11:26:00

Thanx to Shinobi, the texture mapping bug nailed.

ccc · Post by **ccc** » 2001-08-28 12:13:00

This time Big thanx to Mike.
Without Mike's assistance, this toy couldnt be done with ease.

the front fins is pitched down few degrees, and the textures of fins are seperated for upper/down faces.

hc_pookie · Post by **hc_pookie** » 2001-08-28 13:35:00

Ships are in desperate need of attention. There are only 3 or 4 default ship models.

IMHO they need work!

Shawn is working on a Battleship model I think... at least he mentioned it on the F4LE forum the other day.

hc_pookie · Post by **hc_pookie** » 2001-08-28 13:37:00

I'm not sure about a new targeting pod.... It looks cool, but I don't think it will do much for us since the targeting system that it represents would need to be completely revised - this is all hardcoded edits.... therfore I suspect that modelling this pod would only be for eye candy.

FYI, the targeting pod is a part of the model and is activated by a switch (11 I think).

hc_pookie · Post by **hc_pookie** » 2001-08-28 13:38:00

Curious - what are some of these weapons? I recognize some I think but what are they?

ccc · Post by **ccc** » 2001-08-28 14:01:00

Hey Jerry, How can you data patch master unable to recognize these toys?

one more, For Vnam.

ccc · Post by **ccc** » 2001-08-29 01:25:00

Washout · Post by **Washout** » 2001-08-29 12:19:00

Hi CCC

If you keep producing execellent toys at this rate you'll cause Jerry Davis to melt down under the intergration workload

Later

Chris

ccc · Post by **ccc** » 2001-08-29 23:56:00

ALRIGHT. FREEZE NEW TOYS THREADS. NOW.

Hunter · Post by **Hunter** » 2001-08-30 01:24:00

Anyone working Prowler 3D model? It needs some inprovements, specially with hardpoints, it has none!

ccc · Post by **ccc** » 2001-08-30 02:54:00

Hunter, if you check our Vnam archive, you could find my A6 tweak.
Use F4browse, you can add pylon for it, though not in f4p format.

Tazz · Post by **Tazz** » 2001-08-30 11:26:00

CCC,

AWESOME work!! When can we expect a final released version?

ccc · Post by **ccc** » 2001-08-30 12:25:00

quote:Originally posted by Tazz:
When can we expect a final released version?

Official answer: SOON

here're two toys for Europe theaters.

ccc · Post by **ccc** » 2001-09-02 06:16:00

well, if you cant beat Gainful with ease, your viper life will get tougher with these two!

Jackal7 · Post by **Jackal7** » 2001-09-03 03:54:00

Hello all, I'm pretty new to this deal so I won't get in your way. I just have a few questions. I have been working on an AGM-86 cruise missile model, and was wondering where I could get a full detailed manual for LOD editor. I have pics of my progress if you'd like me to post it. I have 2 fears in mind: If anyone is already working on it, or if my model is too detailed. I am pretty serious in implementing this for the B1 bomber for starters, and I'll keep you guys updated on my progress. Any help in this matter is greatly appreciated. Thanks...

ccc · Post by **ccc** » 2001-09-03 04:13:00

1. LodEditor manual? i've not seen it yet

the only you have is readme doc included in your LE zip. somebody could post tips on F4LE forum, go check it.

2.AGM86, ya a sweet toy! post your screenshots pliz! Before you go further, my 2c here:

a.f4 engine cant handle crusie missile, due to its range( outside bubles), its manuever(terrain-following), and its deployable wings and fins(missile items cant do the similar thing like LGB fins) all these problem could only be solved by SC hacking/coding.

b. now come to modeling itself. you have many way to model it. The easiest ones, if you are a Mac user, use Dragon's latest LE, you can draw and build it throughly with Mac LE. if not Mac user, you can easily model one in 3ds max, then convert to lod with LE, do some node tree sorting, then it done. should be easy too. As for LODcomplier+LE modeling, this missile wont fit into this class due to its complexity and asymmetricity.

and last, bear in mind it wont fly terrain-follow!! Instead i recommend modeling B61 with chute...or SRAM

Jackal7 · Post by **Jackal7** » 2001-09-03 07:11:00

Oh well I guess my little project just died LOL! unless I continue building it with minimal functionality, because hacking is a bit beyond me. Working in 3D studiomax is what I'm learning to get good at, but manipulation is another story. Any hoo, here are the 3D models from studiomax in progression. http://www.geocities.com/dajackal7

icebrain · Post by **icebrain** » 2001-09-03 15:45:00

quote:Originally posted by Jackal7:
I am pretty serious in implementing this for the B1 bomber for starters

Not to burst your bubble, but the B-1 does not carry the -86. It was originally designed to, but it was decided to leave that to the B-52. Also, expanding the forward bay to carry it is against one of those arms limitation treaties (START?). The Bones are only used for conventional operations now, with iron bombs, CBU's, and a couple GPS weapons.

You may want to do the JASSM (http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/smart/jassm.htm) instead; it will be carried by almost every plane in the inventory, including the Bone.

Hunter · Post by **Hunter** » 2001-09-03 15:59:00

Nice work you have there Jackal7!

Hunter · Post by **Hunter** » 2001-09-03 16:06:00

quote:Originally posted by ccc:
This time Big thanx to Mike.
Without Mike's assistance, this toy couldnt be done with ease.

the front fins is pitched down few degrees, and the textures of fins are seperated for upper/down faces.

CCC, can i ask you what this new toy is?

Jackal7 · Post by **Jackal7** » 2001-09-03 17:01:00

You are absolutely right Ice Brain, currently being in the US AIrForce myself, I should know better lol, although the -86 is part of the B-52 armament, and the B1 was designed to carry it at first, sinced I like the maintenance heavy B1, I thought I would try it for shouts and giggles. In the meantime can you guys do me a favor and provide me a list of weapons that may be desired that no body has worked on. It will give me something to do on my idle time when I'm not playing Falcon4. Plus it will help me to get better at 3D studiomax.

By the way, I tried posting the pics directly t this page and for some reason they don't show properly. I have done everything correctly but no joy.

Jackal7 · Post by **Jackal7** » 2001-09-03 17:08:00

cool I hope these have worked

Jackal7 · Post by **Jackal7** » 2001-09-03 17:10:00

last but not least the finished product.

icebrain · Post by **icebrain** » 2001-09-03 21:11:00

Hunter: Those are tanks for the Su-24--the fins on the front ensure separation.

Jackal: Mk-81, AA-3/4/5, Mica, AGM-123, old snakeye, practice bombs, nukes, python 3...