Taiwan Weapons OOB

[derStef]

Hi all, i'm looking for some infos, which weapons are and were used by ROCAF.

I'm also looking for close up or detail photos of ROCAF espezially F-5E & F-16s, for skinnnig..

That is, what i already have: the current weapons i think

# Medium-range Air-to-air Missiles

* AIM-7M Sparrow: F-16A/B
* AIM-120C AMRAAM: F-16A/B
* MICA: Mirage 2000-5Di/Ei
* Sky Sword TC-2: F-CK-1A/B

# Short-range Air-to-air Missiles

* AIM-9P4 Sidewinder: F-5E/F, F-16A/B, F-CK-1A/B
* AIM-9M Sidewinder: F-16A/B
* R550 Magic II: Mirage 2000-5Di/Ei
* Sky Sword TC-1: F-CK-1A/B

# Air-to-surface Missiles

* AGM-65B Maverick: F-5E/F, F-16A/B
* AGM-65G Maverick: F-16A/B
* AGM-84A Harpoon: F-16A/B

# Unguided Bombs

* ISCB-1: F-5E/F, F-16A/B
* Mk 20 Rockeye: F-5E/F, F-16A/B
* Mk 82LDGP/SE 500-lb: F-5E/F, F-16A/B
* Mk 84LDGP 2000-lb: F-5E/F, F-16A/B
* M117 750-lb: F-5E/F
* BLU-1: F-5E/F


please any infos! ccc?
cheers
Stef

[ccc]

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/sh ... p?t=119827

for anti-radar missile,

there's a TC-2 variant, TC-2B? for ARM. loaded under inner wing pylons of IDF. you may use AGM88 for it.

also rumored US will sell AGM88 once TC-2B ready to production.

also a JSOW type gliding guided cluster bomb, Wan-Jian, for IDF, same inner wing pylons. just use JSOW instead.

and, SF-II antiship missiles, similar to air-launched harpoon, can be loaded on the same pylons.

lastly, GBU-12, for F5, F16. - lased by buddy. i can't remember if F16 got GBU10.

[derStef]

Thanks ccc for the link!

This is how i modded the loadouts and mission priorities via F4browse:
F-5E: (Mission priorities: , INTERDICTION, now also able to do CAPs/SWEEPS, also a bit antiship & strike)
AIM-9P (and M for testing, my favourite weapon... )
AGM-65B, LAU-3,
BSU-49, BSU-50, BLU-1
MK-82, MK-82SE, MK-84
GBU-12GP(but just 2 on centerline HP)
150gal tank, 285gal tank;

F-16B: has internal jammer in my mod, for testing. mission priorities: CAP, INTERDICTION, STRIKE, ANTISHIP)
AIM-9P/M, AIM-7M, AIM-120C-5(only 2 on wingtip),
AGM-65B/G, AGM-84A(the E has much bader hit ratio against ships, i tested it out.)(max.2loadable),LAU-3
MK-20, MK-82, MK-82SE,MK-84
BSU-50, BSU-49,
GBU-12GP, GBU-10GP
300gal tank, 370gal tank;

F-16AM-B: (in my mod the belgian MLUs are all stationed at HUALIEN AB. Mission priorities: CAP, SEAD, ANTISHIP, INTERDICTION, a bit more "defensive" than the F-16AM-D)
AIM-9P/M, AIM-7M, AIM-120C-5 (2 on wingtip, 2 on HP3/7, so every F-16 flight has 2 winders, )
AGM-65B/G, AGM-84A, AGM-88, LAU-3
MK-20
BSU-50, BSU-49
MK-82, MK-82SE,MK-84
GBU-12GP, GBU-10GP
300gal tank, 370gal tank, 600gal tank F-15C;

F-16AM-B: (in my mod the netherlands MLUs are all stationed at CHIAYI AB. Mission priorities: CAP, SEAD, ANTISHIP,STRIKE, INTERDICTION, more "offensive")
AIM-9P/M, AIM-7M, AIM-120C-5(2 on wingtip & 2 on HP3/7)
AGM-65B/G, AGM-84A, AGM-88, LAU-3
MK-20, MK-82, MK-82SE,MK-84,
BSU-50, BSU-49,
GBU-12GP, GBU-10GP,
300gal tank, 370gal tank

AMX (Instead of FUCK-1 IDF:
Mission priorities: now also CAP able, STRIKE, NAVALSTRIKE, INTERDICTION)
AIM-9P/M, AIM-120C-4 (instead of SKY SWORD II)
AGM-65B/G, AGM-84(1 on centerline), AGM-88(why not an ALARM, might be "lighter")
BSU-49, BSU-50
MK-20D, MK-82, MK-82SE, MK-84;
GBU-12GP,....
330 gal tank F-18



I hope, i haven't forgotten something.....
to be continued.

cheers

[ccc]

F-5 is now tasked for AG missions.. and the AG mission is mostly defensive( over friendly land).

in contrast, F16 is tasked for AA and AG, and its AG missions are moe offensive - antiship, antiradar, strike red airbase/port/inland targets.

[derStef]

F-5 is now tasked for AG missions.. and the AG mission is mostly defensive( over friendly land).

in contrast, F16 is tasked for AA and AG, and its AG missions are moe offensive - antiship, antiradar, strike red airbase/port/inland targets.

yes, i know that they are used just for INT, but problem is that you hardly get flights in taiwan (i think, the prob is that there is no "frontline") if you haven't gave them also CAP and Strike ability. as standard setting they are only for Interdiction missions in F4......you know...
so i gave them also these capabilities to generate more flights.....

What are the tasks for the F-CK-1 IDF? CAP, INT, SEAD & ANTISHIP?



about SKY SWORD I & II: are they only used by F-CK-1 IDF?
is it ok that i use the AIM-120C-4 instead of SKY SWORD II? C-4 has the smallest range of all Slammers, so i decided for it because i don't think that this Skysword has same range capability than a AIM-120B, C-5 or C-7,... is that ok? any infos about range and performance of skysword2?
for SKYSWORD I, is it ok, if i'm using a AIM-9H instead of it? i know that the J models looks more like it, but J uses the same skin as P model, which is also used here for F-5E,F-16,.... so skinning prob, or could we give the J a seperate skin database? (.dds)

[ccc]

- for f5, yes you can add more AA role score.

- for IDF, it's main role is intercept, then CAP. AG role minimal

- sky sword I and II, suggest use aim9m and aim120. sky sword II free flight range said to be 70-90km. effective combat range could be around 40-50km.

[derStef]

- for f5, yes you can add more AA role score.

- for IDF, it's main role is intercept, then CAP. AG role minimal

- sky sword I and II, suggest use aim9m and aim120. sky sword II free flight range said to be 70-90km. effective combat range could be around 40-50km.

OK.
i use the AIM-120C4 instead of SKYSWORD II
and AIM-9M instead of SKYSWORD I.....

[derStef]

i' looking desperately for JASDF (Japanese Airforce) Weapons!!!
can anybody help me out?
I'm looking for F-15J, F-4EJ, and F-1 loadouts..

what i know that they have, (and what we have in F4 DB)
AIM-9M/P (in F4)
AIM-7M/F (in F4)
AIM-120B (in F4)
ASM-1 (in F4)
ASM-2
AAM-3 (in F4)
AAM-4
AAM-5
AGM-78 (in F4)
MK-82 (in F4)
MK-84 (in F4)
LAU-3 (in F4)
LAU-68 (in F4)
ALQ-119 (in F4)


what about:
BSU-47/-85/-50?
MK-83?
AGM-65?
AGM-84?
MK-20 or other Clusterbombs?
LaserGuidedBombs?


thanks in advance!

cheers
Stef

[ccc]

http://rightwing.sakura.ne.jp/equipment ... dftop.html

[derStef]

http://rightwing.sakura.ne.jp/equipment ... dftop.html

hey thanks ccc, but i can't read japanese!
....damned...

[derStef]

hey ccc,

what do you know about ROCAF equipement in the 80's for threir F-104s, F-100s, F-5s?

i have something planned,.......

[ccc]

what do you know about ROCAF equipement in the 80's for threir F-104s, F-100s, F-5s?

F-104, mk82-84, rocket pod, mk117, naplam.
F-100, ditto.
F-5, ditto, plus limited AGM65A/B and GBU-12 500lb. mk20.

[derStef]

what do you know about ROCAF equipement in the 80's for threir F-104s, F-100s, F-5s?

F-104, mk82-84, rocket pod, mk117, naplam.
F-100, ditto.
F-5, ditto, plus limited AGM65A/B and GBU-12 500lb. mk20.

thx CCC!

what abot Air to air weapons? sidewinders? wich ones? P? M alerady? Sparrows?

[ccc]

around '80 AAM > only aim9P. maybe some outdated aim-9B. plus very few skysword I IRAAM, euquivalent to L, or M.. parts from US.

[ccc]

http://www.taiwanairpower.org/af/index.html

this page is excellent for OOB info. Also the colleciton of Sq patches can be used in UI/sq selection.

for weapon store info, scroll down to bottom.

[derStef]

thanks ccc!

btw i know the site, its the major base for my taiwan oob research! very good infos there!

one last question, do you know where the GBU-12 are attached on the F-5Es? centerline and inner wing HP? LTGP?

thanks again!

regards
STef

[ccc]

one last question, do you know where the GBU-12 are attached on the F-5Es? centerline and inner wing HP? LTGP?

GBU12 on underwing pylon only. lasing pod is on the second ac/wingman, usually a F-5F.
don't bother this issue, just let all have self-lasing capability to simplify the process.

[derStef]

one last question, do you know where the GBU-12 are attached on the F-5Es? centerline and inner wing HP? LTGP?

GBU12 on underwing pylon only. lasing pod is on the second ac/wingman, usually a F-5F.
don't bother this issue, just let all have self-lasing capability to simplify the process.

ok, thanks.

so should i add a lpod on the centerline or leave it out?

[ccc]

so should i add a lpod on the centerline or leave it out?

don't load the pod.

[derStef]

CCC do you have?
Japanese stuff...
ASM-2
AAM-3 (in F4)
AAM-4
AAM-5

[ccc]

CCC do you have?
Japanese stuff...
ASM-2...... in DB.
AAM-3 (in F4)
AAM-4 ..... use Aim120
AAM-5 ..... use aim-x

[derStef]

CCC do you have?
Japanese stuff...
ASM-2...... in DB.
AAM-3 (in F4)
AAM-4 ..... use Aim120
AAM-5 ..... use aim-x

ASM-2 is not in DB....

[ccc]

[quote="derStef]ASM-2 is not in DB....[/quote]

maybe a hidden parent you dont' know

anyway i have built it long time ago. Ranger should have the file.

[derStef]

thx for the info ccc.

about the rolescores:
what do you suggest for the following planes?

my suggestions:
F-16AM-B/D: CAP, INT/CAS, NavalStrike, Strike, Recon, SEAD, Training.
Mirage 2000-5D/Ei: CAP, Training.
F-5E: CAP (low), INT/CAS, RECON, Training.
F-5A: RECON, Training.
F-CK-1: CAP, INT/CAS, NavalStrike, Strike, Training.
F-104: CAP, INT/CAS, RECON,Training.
F-100: CAP, INT/CAS, NavalStrike, Strike, Training.
AT-3: INT/CAS, Training.

what do you think?

[ccc]

your score setting is ok.

tho most ac will be used for CAP/intercept first.

[derStef]

your score setting is ok.

tho most ac will be used for CAP/intercept first.

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ok.

i was thinking maybe to give the F-5Es also a small antiship role.. should i?