End of 2006 look on Theater tools

Post by **Snake Man** » 2006-12-10 02:57:30

Its now end of 2006 and I'd like to update our downloads page that we have the latest versions of all theater tools available. So lets fill this list

TheaterMaker v?
F4Browse v2.16
TacEdit v2.46
TerrainView v1.55
F4Patch Texture Manager v1.15
Dem2Terrain v1.9
LODEditor v4.5.0
2D Cockpit Editor v1.28
TacRef Editor v2.01

I have no idea if these are the most latest versions and how does the various F4 versions effect these utilities. Please post any information you got.

Sherlock · Post by **Sherlock** » 2006-12-10 19:00:57

The latest versions I show are for the following:

F4Browse 2.30
LODEditor 5.2.4.0
TacEdit 2.46
TerrainView 1.55
Dem2Terrain 1.9
The rest I don't know about.

Add LODFixer 1.04 ?
Pathmaker 1.00 ?
(these are part of theatermaker I think).

Post by **Snake Man** » 2006-12-11 11:22:12

Sherlock wrote:F4Browse 2.30
LODEditor 5.2.4.0

Where can I download these? Or can you send them to me please.

Add LODFixer 1.04 ? Pathmaker 1.00 ? (these are part of theatermaker I think).

Yes pathmaker is part of theatermaker, I dont remember LODFixer. Any ideas if the theatermaker is latest what we got online?

87th_striker · Post by **87th_striker** » 2006-12-11 14:02:47

Wasn't there a TerrainView 1.56 ?

Sherlock · Post by **Sherlock** » 2006-12-11 16:17:05

87th_striker wrote:Wasn't there a TerrainView 1.56 ?

If there was I haven't been able to find it. Do you have it? Can you make it available for d/l or send it to snake man so he can host it up?

thx.

Sherlock · Post by **Sherlock** » 2006-12-11 17:02:36

Snake Man,
check your falcon4 account. I emailed what I have to you.

Sherlock

Post by **Snake Man** » 2006-12-12 14:33:57

87th_striker wrote:Wasn't there a TerrainView 1.56 ?

I cant remember such, but heh that doesn't mean much

No seriously I cant remember any other version except the 1.55 we have here.

Sherlock wrote:check your falcon4 account. I emailed what I have to you.

Thanks got them. I'll sort them out and put the finals on the download page ASAP.

87th_striker · Post by **87th_striker** » 2006-12-14 11:57:38

Wasn't there a special version that handled bigger theaters, or was that Dem2Terrain ?

Post by **Snake Man** » 2006-12-14 15:17:27

87th_striker wrote:Wasn't there a special version that handled bigger theaters, or was that Dem2Terrain ?

For Terrainview I dont know, it think it reads what its fed. Dem2Terrain of course had good coding from the start as I made sure Codec made it to support anything we need.

Sherlock · Post by **Sherlock** » 2006-12-15 06:23:58

TerrainView comes in two Executables; one for 2-byte L2s and one for 4-byte L2s. They both bear the same version number (they usually are packaged together in the same zip file). The 4-byte version ends in a "Lg" on the end of the name, e.g., TerrainViewLg.

Post by **Snake Man** » 2006-12-15 06:43:35

Sherlock wrote:The latest versions I show are for the following:
F4Browse 2.30

Did you send me the wrong zip because it was called "F4Browse2.4b7.zip" and thats ages old if I'm correct?

Sherlock · Post by **Sherlock** » 2006-12-15 07:04:03

Snake Man wrote:
Sherlock wrote:The latest versions I show are for the following:
F4Browse 2.30
Did you send me the wrong zip because it was called "F4Browse2.4b7.zip" and thats ages old if I'm correct?

2.4 b7 comes after 2.30 I thought?
I sent the latest that I have. I don't have 2.30. Sorry.

Post by **Snake Man** » 2006-12-15 11:19:45

F4Browse_v2.16 located on our downloads page has the exe dated Jul 23rd, 2002.
Here is the changelog

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Changes

F4Browse 2.16
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Export toolbar, adapted the select CT data item

F4Browse 2.15
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Started adding export/import stuff

F4Browse 2.14
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Added lod colour table

F4Browse 2.13
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Some minor UI fixes.
Sorting in DDP fixed.
HDR info added, parent now a sub view
Added Lod and Tex views

F4Browse 2.12
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Fixed IRST item access in ACD view

F4Browse 2.11
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Added operation to create txt file containing Aircraft name, CT number and cockpit NCTR name

F4Browse 2.10
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Parent View implemented

F4Browse 2.9
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Added operation to search a parent record in the CT graphics list

F4Browse 2.8
============

F4Browse 2.7
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Fix up the WLD writing for old versions.

F4Browse 2.6
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DDP and RKT file are optional, and it will continue without them if missing.

F4Browse 2.5
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Added two new weapon flags
Release

F4Browse 2.4 beta 21
====================
Don't allow to modify exe hardcoded CT records

F4Browse 2.4 beta 20
====================
Added list of VCD records that need the Hardpoint list to be sorted.
For knowing which aircraft rack data needs to be fixed, too.


F4Browse 2.4 beta 19
====================
Changed global WLD sort function (beta 6) to sort WLD and VCD hardpoint record stuff
Added CT graphics -> HDR parent record link checker (both functions in "Operations" menu)

F4Browse 2.4 beta 18
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Added 'Set Combat Type #8' for vehicle having no hit chance for 'Low Air' and 'Air'. If can't hit air things, no point making it a fighter combat type. Force it to 8 which is for bombers and support flights (AWACS, Tankers, etc ... )
Added the ability to renumber the hardpoints so they are in sequential (a Renumber button was added beside the hardpoints list).


F4Browse 2.4 beta 17
====================
Some changes to CT Record listing, now also lists hardcoded CT records
"Edit CT record" button in CTList view
Added function to search a CT record via class data (Domain, Class, Type, SType, SPType)

F4Browse 2.4 beta 16
====================
Hardpoint drag/drop

F4Browse 2.4 beta 15
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Finished off rocket data changes

F4Browse 2.4 beta 14
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Added the "Use Unit's Radar" flag for vehicles. If set, this ground vehicle will
use the unit's radar vehicle to find its 'AirFireRate'.

F4Browse 2.4 beta 13
====================
Started to add rocket support

F4Browse 2.4 beta 12
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Added CT record stuff
new Menu "Operations" and "CT" button

F4Browse 2.4 beta 11
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Made use of the RWD Flags dialog instead of the RCD Flags dialog box for RWD.
Added the Flags field to the RWD and RCD detailed view.

F4Browse 2.4 beta 10
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Fixed up saving of old style records,
also the tree stuff.

F4Browse 2.4 beta 9
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Added the 'Has NTCR' and 'Has Exact RWR' to Vehicle Data Type
Disabled extended Vehicle flags that are not present for units when unit flags are viewed.

Changes
F4Browse 2.4 beta 8
===================
Save various view states between windows.

F4Browse 2.4 beta 7
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Minor adjustment to HP dialog.

F4Browse 2.4 beta 6
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Added global WLD sort function
Added local WLD sort function
Delete Weapon sorts the current WLD
Added WLD record number to Hardpoint Data dialog
Added WLD record number to Vehicle\Aircraft Hardpoint table

F4Browse 2.4 beta 5
===================
Fixed up fed import (I think)

F4Browse 2.4 beta 4
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WLD SSD changes + some minor fixes

F4Browse 2.4 beta 3
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Fed List Import/Export added.

F4Browse 2.4 beta 2
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Fed List LOD view added.

F4Browse 2.4 beta 1
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Radar data field added.

F4Browse 2.4c
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detect values updated

F4Browse 2.4b
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Update hit chance too

F4Browse 2.4a
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Update unit and vcl stats

F4Browse 2.4
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Release

F4Browse2.4b7 I got from you (unless I'm terribly mistaken) has the exe dated Jan 30th, 2002.
Here is the changelog

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Changes

F4Browse 2.4 beta 7
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Minor adjustment to HP dialog.

F4Browse 2.4 beta 6
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Added global WLD sort function
Added local WLD sort function
Delete Weapon sorts the current WLD
Added WLD record number to Hardpoint Data dialog
Added WLD record number to Vehicle\Aircraft Hardpoint table

F4Browse 2.4 beta 5
===================
Fixed up fed import (I think)

F4Browse 2.4 beta 4
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WLD SSD changes + some minor fixes

F4Browse 2.4 beta 3
===================
Fed List Import/Export added.

F4Browse 2.4 beta 2
===================
Fed List LOD view added.

F4Browse 2.4 beta 1
===================
Radar data field added.

F4Browse 2.4c
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detect values updated

F4Browse 2.4b
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Update hit chance too

F4Browse 2.4a
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Update unit and vcl stats

F4Browse 2.4
===========
Release

Also as we hunt for the latest versions, I do have some odd old SP5 times version here.

F4browse_SP5 has the exe dated Feb 7th, 2003.
With changelog compared to the others like this

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Changes

F4Browse 2.31
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Naval units

F4Browse 2.30
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Better ground unit dialog names

F4Browse 2.29
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Added a flag to the weapon to specify if it's a marker rocket

F4Browse 2.28
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Updated search for BAD CT's
Some yucky code, but it works.

F4Browse 2.27
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Reworked code to use common Icon routine
More fun with icons.

F4Browse 2.26
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Fixed up unit types on page

F4Browse 2.25
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Removed the "Pulse Time" field which was moved to the radars' .DAT files

F4Browse 2.24
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VCL ACD button.
Added some new icons so I can find helicopters and awacs.

F4Browse 2.23
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Added the 'Pulse time' field for the radar in the RCD file. Only visible if the RCD file has been
expanded to include this field (ie, bigger in size) (62 bytes per record instead of 58).

F4Browse 2.22
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Addition of the RAD_PULSE flag to the RCD Flag dialog box
Adds a new 'Operation' menu item called 'Set Pulse/Doppler flag' which sets the pulse
flag on every radar having a 'beam dist' not equal zero and sets the doppler flag on
every radar having a 'beam dist' less than one (but more than zero). Used to populate
the new flag bit in batch until they can be tweaked.

F4Browse 2.21
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Addition of the RAD_DOPPLER flag to the RCD Flag dialog box

F4Browse 2.20
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VCL radar size fix

F4Browse 2.19
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Added the ECM strength field that was coded back in August 2001 but NEVER implemented

Changes
F4Browse 2.18
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Rack group rename

F4Browse 2.17
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Drag and drop SSD entries.

F4Browse 2.16
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Export toolbar, adapted the select CT data item

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Post by **Snake Man** » 2006-12-15 11:28:51

I have also some TacEdit versions.

tacedit.v2.46 from our downloads page exe dated Feb 4th, 2003.
Changelog

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Changes
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V2.46
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Water experiments
Draggable waypoints.
Some WP fixes
Some Map fixes.
Object Id base settable

V2.45
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Added menu to add/delete team toolbar
Adjust cost of rail travel.
Repair objectives now fixes them up to default state

V2.44
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Schumi fix for bad creator ID's
Reworked schumis stuff to use the generic ids.

V2.43
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Some stuff from Cooler fixed
Remember some more of the map view state

V2.42
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Fixed up the teamactions save!

V2.41
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A load more missionrequest and a few general team TCL commands

V2.40
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Tcl for teams - a start
Delete tasks.

And then some odd version of

tacedit.v2.46-3 with exe dated Feb 27th, 2003.
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V2.48
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Some unit work

V2.47
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Repair objectives fixes FED lenght too.

V2.46
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Water experiments
Draggable waypoints.
Some WP fixes
Some Map fixes.
Object Id base settable
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Sherlock · Post by **Sherlock** » 2006-12-15 15:25:45

Holy $hit! Can you make that later version of TacEdit available for d/l?

T_Rex · Post by **T_Rex** » 2006-12-15 18:00:17

Yeah... uh SM - some of those utils are from VO. 8)

I'm not sure they would work with what has been released.

Although, it would be interesting to see if they worked with AF....

Sherlock · Post by **Sherlock** » 2006-12-15 18:30:05

T_Rex wrote:Yeah... uh SM - some of those utils are from VO. 8)

I'm not sure they would work with what has been released.

Although, it would be interesting to see if they worked with AF....

BINGO!!!!
We have a winner!

Post by **Snake Man** » 2006-12-15 18:54:34

I tried that newest F4Browse but it gave me some error when loading F4AF file, sorry didn't check what it was. So no, its not working with AF, sorry.

T_Rex · Post by **T_Rex** » 2006-12-15 18:59:32

Any idea if it works with "old" F4?

Post by **Snake Man** » 2006-12-15 19:15:28

T_Rex wrote:Any idea if it works with "old" F4?

Yeah I take this question is tricky/joke because of the smiley, but yeah lets draw a picture; it works with Falcon 4.0 fine, like said its the SP5 ViperOps aged one, perhaps with the Naval Tasking Manager (NTM) (if I recall correctly) features added.

T_Rex · Post by **T_Rex** » 2006-12-15 19:18:04

I didn't mean to imply anything - and I certainly didn't mean any offense.

Some of the features probably don't work on 'old' F4, because VO was so much more advanced.

But, if it had better tools for working with 'old' F4 data, it might still be of use to people.

I really didn't/don't know if it works on 'old' F4 data.

:thumbs:

Sherlock · Post by **Sherlock** » 2006-12-15 19:32:47

Snake Man wrote:I tried that newest F4Browse but it gave me some error when loading F4AF file, sorry didn't check what it was. So no, its not working with AF, sorry.

What about the later TacEdit version on AF?

Post by **Snake Man** » 2006-12-15 21:27:22

Sherlock wrote:What about the later TacEdit version on AF?

I didn't try it and at the moment I again dont have F4AF installed, will have to install it again and try Tacedit.

Unless of course if someone can just rar up the necessary files and email it to me, but dunno if Tacedit reads something else than the pure campaign dir. Oh well I'll get around to try it soonish.

Sherlock · Post by **Sherlock** » 2006-12-15 22:15:16

Snake Man wrote:
Sherlock wrote:What about the later TacEdit version on AF?
I didn't try it and at the moment I again dont have F4AF installed, will have to install it again and try Tacedit.

Unless of course if someone can just rar up the necessary files and email it to me, but dunno if Tacedit reads something else than the pure campaign dir. Oh well I'll get around to try it soonish.

I have AF installed right now.
I'd be glad to try it out for you!

T_Rex · Post by **T_Rex** » 2006-12-19 17:35:11

Sherlock - you the lod_Sherlock from FW, eh?

What installer package are you planning on using for your stuff?

You can PM me here/FF/FW if you'd rather.

Sherlock · Post by **Sherlock** » 2006-12-19 17:39:52

T_Rex wrote:Sherlock - you the lod_Sherlock from FW, eh?

What installer package are you planning on using for your stuff?

You can PM me here/FF/FW if you'd rather.

T_Rex,
Yep. One and the same LoD_Sherlock (FW) = Sherlock (PMC) ...

Khronik (i8088 at FW) is doing the installer packages for Israel and ODS. It is an MS-DOS based one (I think). I don't really have any insight into it. You will have to contact him.

T_Rex · Post by **T_Rex** » 2006-12-19 17:45:19

Roger.

Will PM him.

I *highly* recommend the NSIS package. Free, and a community dev type package.

:thumbs:

Post by **Snake Man** » 2006-12-19 20:02:46

This is semi related to theater tools and as I googled that NSIS thingy I came up with this so I decided to post.

NSIS at sourceforge

I have no clue what it is or if its any good, just posted the link for information purposes.

Sherlock · Post by **Sherlock** » 2006-12-19 20:17:54

Snake Man wrote:This is semi related to theater tools and as I googled that NSIS thingy I came up with this so I decided to post.

NSIS at sourceforge

I have no clue what it is or if its any good, just posted the link for information purposes.

Just to clarify....the "NSIS thingy" is a program that can be use to create an installation package for a theater (a "One Click Installer" - OCI). You define what files you want to be in it and what paths you want created/where you want the paths (folders/directories) created then the program will roll all of your files and directory paths up into one exe file. Then the user merely double-clicks the installation package to install the theater into the exact places it needs to be be installed to operate correctly.

Hope this helps

T_Rex · Post by **T_Rex** » 2006-12-19 20:49:51

A little more info here:
http://www.freefalcon.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11599

Post by **Snake Man** » 2006-12-20 00:11:07

Added the info from your topic, the AutoIt thingy.

By reading the information from these two, I think they are quite okay utilities for making theater installer. If I recall you had to copy some files and run the SPTinstall.exe to build the terrain, if not even something else too.

T_Rex · Post by **T_Rex** » 2006-12-20 00:18:46

They are very useful.

There is an app with NSIS that I is supposed to basically update files. You start with a source file and a destination file, it figures out the differences, and makes a third file. With the app in the installer, you can have it find the source file on the user's pc, then use the third file to make a file exactly the same as the destination file.

If that makes sense.

I've had inconsistent results with it, though.

I believe you could use a combination of the two also to edit the theater list text file, too.

Very useful.

Closter · Post by **Closter** » 2007-02-14 12:04:46

I've just known this utility and to me is the little detail utility that could help inmersion in some theaters.

The names and rank structure of each pilot in each squadron of a campaign can be changed.

Pilot Editor

Couldn't it be included in the list and in the download section?

PMC Tactical forums

End of 2006 look on Theater tools

End of 2006 look on Theater tools

Glee and happiness!

what about pilot editor?