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TDF Files
Hi all!
I'm Jashin, a pilot of AMVI ( www.amvi.it ), I'm trying to learn how to build a theater. I'm using CATE for tiling terrain but I think my auto-generated TDF files are bad, so i read about an utility by SnakeMan to fix this problem. Help me and Thank you all!
my email is: jashin@amvi.it
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I'm Jashin, a pilot of AMVI ( www.amvi.it ), I'm trying to learn how to build a theater. I'm using CATE for tiling terrain but I think my auto-generated TDF files are bad, so i read about an utility by SnakeMan to fix this problem. Help me and Thank you all!
my email is: jashin@amvi.it
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Re: TDF Files
You do not need this fix util anymore when you're using dem2terrain.
dem2terrain creates the TDF such way that they work automatically in CATE, no problems.
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dem2terrain creates the TDF such way that they work automatically in CATE, no problems.
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Re: TDF Files
ok the TDF files are ok, but when I try to tile cities with CATE, I receive Runtime Error "9" message. This is the .conf file I use:
TDFFileName:C:\UK\UK-CITY.tdf
[TerrainFeatures: Default]
City=321
[EndTerrainFeatures default]
[TerrainFeatures: Forest]
TerrainType=1
TerrainTiles=(68)
City=490
[EndTerrainFeatures forest]
TDFFileName:C:\UK\UK-CITY.tdf
[TerrainFeatures: Default]
City=321
[EndTerrainFeatures default]
[TerrainFeatures: Forest]
TerrainType=1
TerrainTiles=(68)
City=490
[EndTerrainFeatures forest]
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Re: TDF Files
Here is mine from Korean tileset, europe theater.
# first pass: cities
TDFFileName=D:\F4Terrain\misc\cate\csv\europe-city.tdf
FullRegionTest=No
[TerrainFeatures: Default]
City=321
[EndTerrainFeatures default]
[TerrainFeatures: Forest]
TerrainType=1
TerrainTiles=(68,490)
City=490
[EndTerrainFeatures forest]
[TerrainFeatures: swamp]
TerrainType=2
TerrainTiles=(1076,1124)
City=1124
[EndTerrainFeatures swamp]
[TerrainFeatures: wetfarm]
TerrainType=3
TerrainTiles=(160,321)
City=321
[EndTerrainFeatures wetfarm]
[TerrainFeatures: mountain]
TerrainType=4
TerrainTiles=(260,321)
City=321
[EndTerrainFeatures mountain]
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# first pass: cities
TDFFileName=D:\F4Terrain\misc\cate\csv\europe-city.tdf
FullRegionTest=No
[TerrainFeatures: Default]
City=321
[EndTerrainFeatures default]
[TerrainFeatures: Forest]
TerrainType=1
TerrainTiles=(68,490)
City=490
[EndTerrainFeatures forest]
[TerrainFeatures: swamp]
TerrainType=2
TerrainTiles=(1076,1124)
City=1124
[EndTerrainFeatures swamp]
[TerrainFeatures: wetfarm]
TerrainType=3
TerrainTiles=(160,321)
City=321
[EndTerrainFeatures wetfarm]
[TerrainFeatures: mountain]
TerrainType=4
TerrainTiles=(260,321)
City=321
[EndTerrainFeatures mountain]
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Re: TDF Files
Ok, I'll try using your conf file...
Thank you
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Re: TDF Files
Excuseme but I continue to have problems using CATE. So, correct me if I'm wrong:
1) Go to DEM site and download the Theater's area
2) Go to Digital Chart of The World and download all the files of all countries in the Theater's area
3) Open .hdr file using Dem2Terrain
4) Oper all .eoo files in Dem2Terrain
5) Generate Theater
6) Open CATE, set the path of the conf (written for use Dem2terrain's .tdf files)file and the path of theater
7)I receive runtime error 9 message
Where is the error?
Thank you all!
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1) Go to DEM site and download the Theater's area
2) Go to Digital Chart of The World and download all the files of all countries in the Theater's area
3) Open .hdr file using Dem2Terrain
4) Oper all .eoo files in Dem2Terrain
5) Generate Theater
6) Open CATE, set the path of the conf (written for use Dem2terrain's .tdf files)file and the path of theater
7)I receive runtime error 9 message
Where is the error?
Thank you all!
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Re: TDF Files
Use my example conf file but change the TDFFileName to reflect your path. Does it work then?
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Re: TDF Files
Yes, I've changed the TDFFileName path, but it doesn't work... I receive runtime error "9" message...
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Re: TDF Files
Does the city TDF files load ok in terrainview showing the orange city areas?
What windows version are you running, 98, me, win2k2y, xp?
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What windows version are you running, 98, me, win2k2y, xp?
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Re: TDF Files
Ok I'm using Windows ME and in TerrainView I can't see the city orange areas...I can't see the rivers and roads too...
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Re: TDF Files
...but when I try to load popoint.e00 file in Dem2Terrain before I generate Theater I receive an Error message : "Unrecognized types of e00" ( this happen only with popoint.e00, the others files are OK ). Is it a problem?
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Re: TDF Files
If your TDF files are broken, of course CATE gives you error 
popoint.e00 is not used. forget it.
Fix the TDF files somehow, I suggest you convert them again and load up in terrainview. You should be seeing image such as the map images here
If you cannot see matching road, river and city features in your TDF files, then you got a problem.
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popoint.e00 is not used. forget it.
Fix the TDF files somehow, I suggest you convert them again and load up in terrainview. You should be seeing image such as the map images here




If you cannot see matching road, river and city features in your TDF files, then you got a problem.
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Re: TDF Files
hi all!
I'm new in theater building...i've downloaded all file and programs in the download section of the site...there is a little confusion but I'm trying learning.
I've the same problem as Jashin!
In dem2terrain I can load .hdr and all features, but when I try to load the .L2 in terrainview I can see only the airport!!!
Not river, nor roads or city! nothing but only the airports!
I've CATE but I didn't find any config file where can I find them?
I've perl's scripts, but where can I find perl the program?
thx, in advance
I'm new in theater building...i've downloaded all file and programs in the download section of the site...there is a little confusion but I'm trying learning.
I've the same problem as Jashin!
In dem2terrain I can load .hdr and all features, but when I try to load the .L2 in terrainview I can see only the airport!!!
Not river, nor roads or city! nothing but only the airports!
I've CATE but I didn't find any config file where can I find them?
I've perl's scripts, but where can I find perl the program?
thx, in advance

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Re: TDF Files
It's too strange, I'm trying to build an UK Theater ( just for training ) and when I load the e00 files in DEM it seems to be OK, but when I see the Theater in Terrain View and I load the terrain features I can't see roads and rivers.
I see only 1 road and 1 River in the north of UK...
Snake could you send me your city.tdf and your rules.obr for DEM just to see them?
jashin@amvi.it
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Jashin
I see only 1 road and 1 River in the north of UK...
Snake could you send me your city.tdf and your rules.obr for DEM just to see them?
jashin@amvi.it
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Re: TDF Files
hey Jashin
r u italian?
me too, so we can email eachother! in this way we'll can resolve some of our problems!
this is for snakeman:
where can i find the file .conf for CATE?
r u italian?
me too, so we can email eachother! in this way we'll can resolve some of our problems!
this is for snakeman:
where can i find the file .conf for CATE?
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Re: TDF Files
Ok Wolf, give me your icq number! My icq is 65754766.
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Re: TDF Files
The download page has been updated with Quicksilver's CATE conf files for korean texture.binquote:I've CATE but I didn't find any config file where can I find them?
Check them out, they are real nice.
Its on the web, "active perl" or something. Guys posted the link here somewhere but cannot find it right now. Use google.com to find itquote:I've perl's scripts, but where can I find perl the program?

My rules.obr is default, it does not control what will be created for TDF files. It only sets rules for objectives creation in the CSV file.quote:Snake could you send me your city.tdf and your rules.obr for DEM just to see them?
Here is small paste of europe theater CITY TDF file:
CITY 2 1566,467 1566,467
CITY 4 1563,467 1563,467 1564,467 1564,467
CITY 4 1562,467 1562,467 1563,467 1563,467
CITY 4 1371,467 1371,467 1371,467 1371,467
CITY 2 1369,467 1371,467
Hope that helps.
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Re: TDF Files
To all having problems with their TDF not showing up in Terrainview or not processing in CATE:
Check your tdf RIVER ROAD CITIES COAST
if they are terminated by a zero they wont work.
Solution is to remove the terminating 0!
I've been told that this error should have vanished with dem2terrain v 1.9 but it seems still going strong
Hope that helps
Check your tdf RIVER ROAD CITIES COAST
if they are terminated by a zero they wont work.
Solution is to remove the terminating 0!
I've been told that this error should have vanished with dem2terrain v 1.9 but it seems still going strong

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Re: TDF Files
IT WORKS! THANK YOU SNAKEMAN AND SACEUR!
...but is there an utility to do this work?
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...but is there an utility to do this work?
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Re: TDF Files
is the dem2terrain v1.9 that we have on download still creating TDF files with ending 0's?
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Re: TDF Files
hmm...lots people asking theater tool questions...just curious what theater(s) are in progress?
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Re: TDF Files
Yes Snake Man, DEM2 v 1.9 still create TDF files with ending 0's...
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Re: TDF Files
yes SnakeMan!
the dem2terrain in download page get the "o" at the and of every line in .tdf files!
the dem2terrain in download page get the "o" at the and of every line in .tdf files!
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Re: TDF Files
dem2terrain v1.9 adds the 0's at the end of the TDF file line, thanks for confirming that.
Terrainview v1.53 reads these TDF files OK.
Latest CATE versions doesn't.
I have asked Skyfire that if he could fix it, so lets wait what he says. Sorry about this confusing stuff at the moment. If you are hurry you can always use older dem2terrain to create the TDF's and new to create CSV
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Terrainview v1.53 reads these TDF files OK.
Latest CATE versions doesn't.
I have asked Skyfire that if he could fix it, so lets wait what he says. Sorry about this confusing stuff at the moment. If you are hurry you can always use older dem2terrain to create the TDF's and new to create CSV

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Re: TDF Files
Snake Man, you have a new version in your mailbox ... 
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Re: TDF Files
If DEM2Terrain creates the problem, why not fix it there ?
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Re: TDF Files
By following the book, Terrainview_lg want show dem2terrains 1.9 .tdf for drainage, roads and large cities.
hmmm...? 000000000000000000000000000000
hmmm...? 000000000000000000000000000000
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Re: TDF Files
same problem with regular terrainview, and small theater settings.
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Re: TDF Files
Problem seems to be on my computer, since Codec can load the files without problems. But neither CATE or Terrainview can load the here.... Size related maybe ?
I'll check more....
I'll check more....
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Re: TDF Files
With respect to fixing this Zero thing at the end of coast cities road and rivers - t can be used to selectively enabeling roads and rivers. It could be automated somehow as the E00 files differntiate between highways and other roads. As far as I sse f.eks the european theater there are too many objects compared to Korea. which has aprox 2500 objects and my own baltic already now lists around 14000 and I have still no bridgesplaced. So selecting a subset of the roads and rivers would reduce the number of briges neededconsidderable.