How is Falcon 4 today

Post by **Snake Man** » 2006-10-26 12:27:00

Hello guys, long time no see

I just stopped to say hello and I wanted to know how is the Falcon 4.0 scene today. I have no idea whats been going on, I did check out Allied Force, but just briefly and while it gave me CTD, old bad memories came back hehe.

Noticed that there are few guys posting here theater related stuff, nice to see someone is still working on them.

So whats the score on Falcon 4 today, is Allied Force (AF) new and stable one-shop version to use?

How about theaters, are there only Korea and Balkans for the AF, I heard that the development team didn't want community to create/import any new theaters?

What about the stock Falcon 4.0 + patches, are they still alive?

Anything else you want to tell me, feel free. I'll check back here later for replys.

Nice to see you again guys.

ccc · Post by **ccc** » 2006-10-26 16:24:00

hi SM glad to hear you again.. tired of OFP?

well..nothing new.

LP-AF is now the winner "on the market". claimed to be the most stable version..yet waiting patch 1.08 to come for some bugs and stability issue - ya, sounds like old days falcon4.0 patch1.08. and yes, LP don't like ppl modding their product, for the sake of stability..the database is encrypted...

OpenFalcon, after leaking a beta( or official beta), the team disappears..or dissolved.

FreeFalcon, after releasing to FF3.1 with cobra exe 1.1.1, enter a prolonged dev cycle that i can't comment or reveal ATM.

thats all. ppl probably interest more in LOMAC or strike fighter WOV/WOE series, or fisst person shooters these days.

ranger822 · Post by **ranger822** » 2006-10-26 18:13:00

Snakeman . . well you bring back good memories.

CCC summed up rather nicely - - You might take a quick look at Israeli Theater - we have been active and are nearing a public release. To my knowledge there are only two active theaters in development - Israeli and Angola. All the others are either halted or on a hiatus of undetermined length.

Maddog McEwen has his own website for Angola Theater. For F4ITDG (Isreali Theater) we have two for development purposes but it might be nice to have a spot on PMC Forum - pretty please.

You might enjoy seeing the new F-4E Phantom model flying in Israeli Theater - - would sure look swell in Vietnam if we could generate some in serious interest.

Check in and stay a while - look around and see what has become of your theater dreams.

Peled · Post by **Peled** » 2006-10-26 21:36:00

Hello Snakeman !

nice to see you around !
Dudi (Death_119 ) was suprizing us and one day was backing Falcon4 , now he's working on a nice photorealistic Terrain for the IsraeliTheatre ---a honour member in the F4ITDG !
and today it is nice to see you suprizing us !

Can we say : welcome back ?

rigards

Peled.

Sherlock · Post by **Sherlock** » 2006-10-27 04:50:00

Snakeman!

Glad you stopped by. Yes, there are the "valiant few" still using this great website to learn/apply the art of making theaters. Thank you so much for keeping it up for us to reference. It has been a godsend for those of us (like me) who came on the scene very late to theater building. I am just learning how to "crawl" right now regarding theater building. But once I figure out how to use the tools properly I want to build a new theater that hasn't been done yet.

And please let me let you all in on a little secret. The SP3/4 theaters work just fine in Allied Force with a few tweaks. And you can get around the "encrypted" database problem by loading SP4.2 theater .VCD and .PD files in Allied Force to view the data base names (they are the only things encrypted really). It's not 100%, that is true, but it is a 99% solution that works just fine in both singleplayer and multiplayer.

Lead Pursuit has never said they didn't want people putting theaters into Allied Force. What they did say was they will not be building any more theaters for Allied Force. Chris Carter stated, however, that if someone did all the work and submitted it through their modification program (TPAA agreement) and, if they accepted it, they would release it. Those are big "ifs" I know, but it is definitely not a "we don't want anybody releasing any new theaters for AF" statement.

Snakeman, Allied Force is awesome for Multiplayer. It is definitely the shining achievement for the release. It is true that it doesn't come out of the box with some of the past F4 achievements in it, but I've been flying it for over a year now and since 95% of my flying time is MP, I just don't use my old SP4.2+BMS2 load since it just doesn't have the reliability of Allied Force.

Cheers and it sure is glad to see you posting here!

Post by **Snake Man** » 2006-10-27 13:56:00

quote:hi SM glad to hear you again.. tired of OFP?

No way, things are just heating up. Armed Assault is about to get released Nov 10th and before that I'll release the next version of Vietnam: The Experience modification.

VTE aircrafts

So guys dont get your hopes up, even if I come here to ask about the current status of Falcon 4 scene, there is little or no chance of me coming back to editing F4... perhaps I have some interest to fly against Iran (ODS has some Iran coverage) because of the recent events. But that really would require quite stable F4 version, I've gotten used to OFP stability which is basically never crashing. The ODS and Iran campaigns still would interest me for sure.

quote:FreeFalcon, after releasing to FF3.1 with cobra exe 1.1.1

Whats this Cobra exe?

quote:Snakeman . . well you bring back good memories.

Heh hey its quite... well dunno how to say this, well kind of emotional to stop by here. I feel like a war veteran, come to stop by at some veterans meeting after all the years. Hehe dunno how to describe it better.

Man the times, lurking around in #Falcon4Theaters IRC channel all day all night, Julian "Codec" Onions tweaking his utils and we edited like crazy with Widowmaker, always trying new things and making theaters better. Those were the times. I guess all good things come to an end, snif

quote:would sure look swell in Vietnam if we could generate some in serious interest.

Yeah! I do have Vietnam interest for sure as seen on the screenshots at beginning of this post

Mmm, Vietnam theater... no LGB's and fancy stuff, just dropping MK-82 iron bombs and napalm to the target, sounds like fun.

Damn you guys, you start to bring out the F4 geek again in me

ccc · Post by **ccc** » 2006-10-27 14:57:00

<sigh> seems you got lots cool toys.. full hand of vnam ac..

cobra exe, an upgraded version of BMS exe.

Peled and other modding guys will give you more details..i can't remember everything in past years.

have fun.

T_Rex · Post by **T_Rex** » 2006-10-27 15:08:00

Hey SnakeMan! Nice to see you!

I forgot that you moved into OFP modding. I picked up OFP a couple years ago (when I got a computer to handle it) and it is great. Armed Assault should be excellent too.

If you get a chance, check out Frugalsworld, a forum called Team FW. They have ongoing discussions of OFP mods and such.

As for F4, same old same old.

Oh, and for theaters, you HAVE to check out the Angolan theater:
http://www.saafops.com
http://www.combat360.org

ranger822 · Post by **ranger822** » 2006-10-27 19:46:00

Israeli Theater will make its first release under the most current version of Cobra1.1.1. An Israeli forum here will see some activity. However, the lack of activity here is also a function of the activity of developers - there just aren't that many - but we are dedicated.

On the matter of stability. That is a matter of considerable debate. What I can say is Israeli Theater has shown significant improvements in stability as a result of Peled building our campaigns using TCL scripts and fixing links.

I would also encourage you take a peek at some of the work being done by Maddog McEwen on terrain on various forums and his own 360combat website.

Sherlock · Post by **Sherlock** » 2006-10-27 20:47:00

quote:Originally posted by Snake Man:

So guys dont get your hopes up, even if I come here to ask about the current status of Falcon 4 scene, there is little or no chance of me coming back to editing F4... perhaps I have some interest to fly against Iran (ODS has some Iran coverage) because of the recent events. But that really would require quite stable F4 version, I've gotten used to OFP stability which is basically never crashing. The ODS and Iran campaigns still would interest me for sure.

Well, would it help if I told you that I am working on an Iranian theater for Allied Force?

Could I entice you back to help that way? I've already got the bmp file painted for CATE and some preliminary tiling done with CATE (but still working on refining the tiling scripts; it's very complex as you are well aware!)

Also, Allied Force is, IMHO, very stable. You appeared to say in your previous post (above) that you tried Allied Force but you had CTD's with it? I am surprised at that because I have had quite the opposite experience. Allied Force has gotten more stable as they have gone through the last 2-3 patches (I am now running the latest patch 1.07). I think I have had only one CTD since I installed it and I fly 4-5 nights a week for 1-2 hours each night (mostly internet MP).

quote:take a quick look at Israeli Theater - we have been active and are nearing a public release.

Okay so if F4-AF is not allowing new theaters... to which exe/setup are you preparing Israel theater then, or is it just "to hell with them, they cant stop me" type of release?

quote:The SP3/4 theaters work just fine in Allied Force with a few tweaks.

quote:Originally posted by Snake Man:
Well thats good news. Has anyone made anykind of patch/fix to get lets say ODS for F4AF yet, or other theaters?

SM. PM me if you are interested in pursuing this line of discussion.

Perhaps there is enough for put together a tutorial?

quote:Chris Carter stated

quote:Originally posted by Snake Man:
So whats the scoop, Codec and Washout were/are(?) working in the F4AF development team or? Are they still active here in community or have they took off somewhere?

Codec AND Washout both work for Lead Pursuit, which is the developer for Falcon 4: Allied Force. As do quite a few other F4UT guys like Schumi, ED_1, c3PO, etc. They are around at Frugals periodically, but they don't post much (except for c3PO and ED_1). I don't know if they come by here at PMC or not.

quote:It is true that it doesn't come out of the box with some of the past F4 achievements in it

quote:Originally posted by Snake Man:
Achievements... so lets get this straight, does F4AF contain the code/data/stuff from SP5 "ViperOps" or is it something just after the leaked sources? (Sorry I really dont remember pretty much anything about my tests in F4AF, just checked some action camera little while, dont even have joystick now).

I don't know for sure. But it has gotten rid of the jitter on the ground and in the air for MP flight. The internet/LAN netcode allows very CLOSE MP formation flight now on even my modest 128/128 kbps DSL connection using the 1.07 patch for allied force. The majority opinion seems to indicate that the graphics are not as good as FF3 nor does it have some of the extra avionics stuff (like IFF) which gosip has it Lead Pursuit (LP) took out to increase stability of the code base overall.

quote:Originally posted by Snake Man:
And few other questions that come to my mind:

Did someone fix/figure out the campaign paths for ground units, I remember having tons of problems getting ground units to move correctly?

So apparently F4AF is the most stable now, is it possible to fly long missions on it, or is there still/always the fear of sudden CTD present?

Since my absence, has there been any major discoveries one way or another in F4?

Are there any big F4 fan sites left anymore, like Frugals and hmm f4community(?), heh didn't even check yet, sorry I'm lazy

Ground units move pretty well now in Allied Force (can't speak for the other versions). Engineering units were working well in the early versions of Allied Force (like before the 1.05 patch) but now seem to not do anything anymore. Don't know what they broke exactly.

Yes, IMHO, Allied Force is the most stable now...and the best part is that, based on testing to date, the SP3/4 stuff will all work with it (with some tweaking). The one thing I have heard rumors about but have not seen is getting other cockpits (other than Dr. Stops offically approved F-16 cockpit) to work in AF. Rumor has it that it can be done but I haven't had time to investigate it and try to learn how to do it. It is not the "simple" way it used to be in SP3 or SP4. Some hoops would definitely need to be jumped through to do it.

Not sure about major discoveries in F4 but MaddogMcEwen (at SAAFOPS; see previous link given) is doing some ground breaking investigative work on coming up with a new method of generating terrain and tiling it using pictures from Google Earth....fascinating work...

Frugals is still around and going strong. So is SIMHQ. I think the nicest thing about Allied Force is that it has brought in a resounding influx of new folks to the falcon commmunity. The Allied Force forum at frugals has grown incredibly and continues to grow every day with new members sighing up.

(Come to the 'darkside' SM....

)

Cheers!

Post by **Snake Man** » 2006-10-31 16:19:00

Okay guys, thanks for the replies. But looking at this F4 scene now, the one thing that stands out is that there is still (if even not more) just the same chaotic this exe and that exe, you cant do that but we can do this atmosphere going on what I escaped the first time

But nothing's changed, I'd like to fly against Iran if indeed AF is stable to fly. Also the Vietnam campaign would be great.

I just love that campaign stuff, what you blow up now, stays blown up in next mission. Also breaking the enemys back on campaign is just awesome. I still remember one stock Korean campaign what I played, I worked my ass off to knock out all enemy airfields and then I just started to fly CAP and enjoy the views, keeping ready for any suprise airstrips coming back online. Ahh the good memories.

Btw what is the latest on joystick area, is Thrustmaster still the king and CH ... umm err, ch products or what ever the name was? How can I forget the only joystick + throttle name I had hehe. Is there any cheapo yet okay/good joysticks for like USB connection which are EASY to plugin and install? I always hated the gameport cards and stuff back in the day.

Also does AF has the campaign feature to manually create Gorilla Packs (or what was the name again for those flights)?

I always wanted to manually create big groups of planes to attack certain target. I talked to Codec about this in the SP5/ViperOps times but cannot remember if anything came from it.

What I mean is, in old F4's campaign you could of course change the waypoints and behaviour of individual flights, but you could not just right click on enemy airbase and create completely new large "pack" of planes to attack it. SEAD, CAP, Strike etc, the whole deal.

Sherlock · Post by **Sherlock** » 2006-10-31 16:38:00

I am not sure what you mean by the term "Gorilla Packs"? A very large package perhaps? In AF you can still only add 5 flights (of up to 4 aircraft each) in a package. But the ATO in AF is much, much better and easier to control than in previous versions of Falcon IMHO. Of course, you can have multiple packages hitting the same target area if you want to. Ground troops are much better controlled as well.

Yu have to build your packages flight by flight by right clicking on the target and choosing "Add Package" but it is easy to place an OCA flight on a runway, then add a SEAD Escort for the OCA flight, then add a TARCAP (or Escort) flight for the entire package (all within the "Add Package" window after right clicking on the target). The ATO automatically sets the time differences so the SEAD Escort goes in first, then the TARCAP/Escort then the OCA flight. Each a couple of minutes apart. It sets up the flight paths for each flight accordingly also so they have the correct timing to achieve their specific times on target. A thing of beauty actually.

The Cougar HOTAS is still the king of the hill and is, of course, the most expensive.
Most folks go with the Saitek X-52 HOTAS though because of the price. There is a new one coming out from Saitek called the "pro" or something like that.

I think there is a CH products HOTAS out there also, but I don't know anything about it. Maybe someone else can fill you in on it.

ranger822 · Post by **ranger822** » 2006-11-01 01:12:00

Since AF has received so much praise by Sherlock I guess I feel compelled to say something positive about Cobra. But, rather than extolling the virtues I would rather summarize:

Cobra is an exellent choice and it is free. If you just want to fly Falcon then any exe will do. If you want to be part of theater work again the development pool is small and has concentrated around a Cobra derived exe.

ranger822 · Post by **ranger822** » 2006-11-01 21:46:00

Thanks SM for the Israeli Forum . . .

Also, I am actively pursuing any materail that might be useful for a SE Asia theater ... models, skins, ideas, etc. I have some pretty nice terrain tiles for a Vietnam rework - - may be a while before I get around the Vietnam - but it can't hurt to ask around for some building supplies.

Sherlock · Post by **Sherlock** » 2006-11-02 00:28:00

quote:
If you want to be part of theater work again the development pool is small and has concentrated around a Cobra derived exe.[/B]

Ranger, first of all, what I am about to say is not by any means a "slap" at you or the fine work you and your team are doing for Cobra/FF Israeli theater. Please don't take it as such. As a fellow theater builder, I fully respect the effort you and your team are putting into your theater.

That being said, your statement above is not entirely true...but this is not your fault since you don't have any knowledge of any other theater work ongoing. This is because it is under tight wraps right now. I am not at liberty to release any details. I can only say that your statement about "has concentrated around a Cobra derived exe" is not accurate as there are other exes having theaters built/ rebuilt for them.
Cheers!

ranger822 · Post by **ranger822** » 2006-11-02 04:10:00

The news of other developers is welcome indeed. We need all we can get.

As you know there is a lot of work separating "being built" and actually released. A lot can happen in the interim.

The more likely "development" is to see a finished theater "ported" to a new exe with some new skins and cosmetic changes. That is much easier and isn't at all what I am referring to when I talking about development or the pool of developers. I am talking about creating something new, never seen before models, skins, terrain, UI, movies, music, 2d and 3d cockpits, new airbases. To that I want to address something Sherlock said. I must admit I prefer development not be "under wraps." What is the purpose? If anything, we ought to have transparency in development. Maybe help avoid duplicating efforts, share pieces, ideas, that save each group time and benefit both teams, etc.

Depending on who you count, there are maybe a few dozen people who are actively and openly making a significant contribution in Falcon these days to theaters. If I were starting a new theater, I would want to be able to consult with the experts in every area to develop the best possible theater in the easiest most efficient manner. I always thought the idea of PMC Forum was built for that purpose.

ccc · Post by **ccc** » 2006-11-02 09:01:00

Ranger you may have to change your location..no more Haiwaii now

Sherlock · Post by **Sherlock** » 2006-11-02 16:33:00

quote:Originally posted by Ranger:
The news of other developers is welcome indeed. We need all we can get.

Agreed.

quote:Originally posted by Ranger:
As you know there is a lot of work separating "being built" and actually released. A lot can happen in the interim.

Agreed again. You will get no argument from me!

Theater work is a lot of effort whichever course you take, i.e., rebuilding an existing theater or creating a new one. And we all have real life to deal with, which can take crazy turns leading to us not being able to finish what we start...

quote:Originally posted by Ranger:
The more likely "development" is to see a finished theater "ported" to a new exe with some new skins and cosmetic changes. That is much easier and isn't at all what I am referring to when I talking about development or the pool of developers. I am talking about creating something new, never seen before models, skins, terrain, UI, movies, music, 2d and 3d cockpits, new airbases. [/B]

OK. I was lumping this version of development in with the other as one, large group. I agree that porting an existing theater over to a new exe is not as much work as building a new theater from scratch. My mistake in mis-interpreting what you were referring to...

quote:Originally posted by Ranger:
To that I want to address something Sherlock said. I must admit I prefer development not be "under wraps." What is the purpose? If anything, we ought to have transparency in development. Maybe help avoid duplicating efforts, share pieces, ideas, that save each group time and benefit both teams, etc.

In a perfect world, I (and others) would prefer that development be done in the open as you put forward above. And, hopefully, in the future the development ongoing that I can't reveal will be able to come out into the open. However, at this time, there are good reasons for secrecy.

quote:Originally posted by Ranger: Depending on who you count, there are maybe a few dozen people who are actively and openly making a significant contribution in Falcon these days to theaters. If I were starting a new theater, I would want to be able to consult with the experts in every area to develop the best possible theater in the easiest most efficient manner. I always thought the idea of PMC Forum was built for that purpose.[/B]

Again, we are in agreement. Hopefully, things will change so that openess is the rule for all.

Post by **Snake Man** » 2006-11-05 12:44:00

Hey guys, do anybody still have working download links for the Official PMC released theaters for ODS, Vietnam, Europe, Afghanistan and... did I do Nevada also?

I should have them on some CD's, but... where those cd's are, finding them takes longer than re-making the theater I'm sure.

So if anyone have dl links for the theaters or has them on CD/backup, please let me know because I'd very much like to have them safely stored to one nice Falcon 4 Theaters DVDR.

ccc · Post by **ccc** » 2006-11-06 13:54:00

i've checked my CD box, no theatre-related stuff found.. will dig more later..theatre files CDs are hardly used these years.. not sure if they still working.

Sherlock · Post by **Sherlock** » 2006-11-06 16:16:00

SM,
I think you can get most of what you need here:
http://hosted.filefront.com/johq/1677790

Ok, here is the link for the original SP version of ODS (the link above has the BMS version only): http://www.bbe-squad.com/DesertStormTheater.v0.512.rar

Here is the ODS activation file: http://www.bbe-squad.com/DesStorm_Activation_V2.zip
Sherlock

Post by **Snake Man** » 2006-11-06 20:35:00

Okay thanks, that ODS 512 link is working fine.

What about latest Vietnam, Europe and Afghanistan?

Sherlock · Post by **Sherlock** » 2006-11-06 20:47:00

SM,
check PM.

Sherlock · Post by **Sherlock** » 2006-11-06 21:54:00

Note: Try the 444th VFW download page first. They are faster than the Bigupload.com site. Sorry for it; I don't have my own file storage for large files.

Here's Europe V0.4:
Europe.Sp.Beta.V0.4.Exe.Zip by Bigupload.Com

Here's Vietnam:
Vietnamspbetav08.Zip by Bigupload.Com

And here is Afghanistan:
Sp42_afghan_cust444_v0.3b.Zip by Bigupload.Com

Some of these are from the 444th VFW; the only place I could find them. I believe they have been modified (mostly in the campaign/trigger files) from what was originally release by the F4UT Theater team.

Check out the 444th VFW download page at: http://444thvfs.tripod.com/download.html

Post by **Snake Man** » 2006-11-06 23:03:00

quote:Here's Europe V0.4:
Here's Vietnam:
And here is Afghanistan:

Thanks, those are good start. Still I'd like to find the real originals from PMC TFW. But indeed we get far already with these.

ranger822 · Post by **ranger822** » 2006-11-07 16:52:00

If can't get links or you can't find something - - e-mail me a list and an address and I will burn a CD or DVD for you. I have sort of been collecting things for a few years.

Post by **Snake Man** » 2006-11-07 19:46:00

quote:Originally posted by Ranger:
If can't get links or you can't find something - - e-mail me a list and an address and I will burn a CD or DVD for you.

What you got over there, all the PMC TFW theater originals including ODS 512, Vietnam, Europe, Afghanistan, Nevada and there was the odd Korea 128 also?

Those I would really like to have back, surely I do have them somewhere on backup cdr's but those are so buried on who knows where that ugh.

What kind of internet connection you got, any chance you could transfer them to me through the net?

ranger822 · Post by **ranger822** » 2006-11-07 21:40:00

Snakeman - I am not exactly sure what I have, I will have to look thru

I don't have a dedicated internet connection - I am on waiting list for installation since we just moved. I am leeching off of a neighbor's wireless connection, or using my military connection (but can't upload or download from any peer to peer sites). So, I have difficulty with uploading large files.

Therefore, I suggest you get what you can get from others and when you have exhausted all those - - give me your shopping list and I will try to get you the rest.

Sherlock · Post by **Sherlock** » 2006-11-07 22:06:00

I, too, would like to get the originals (other than ODS which I already have). I think we could find someone to host the originals if we had them to offer. I know of a couple of guys right now at FW who have offered up file hosting space/services for Falcon files and are "begging" for folks to give them files to load on their servers.

Post by **Snake Man** » 2006-11-08 02:27:00

Excellent. The hunt for theaters begins!

Btw guys, I'm going to change the ultimatebb forum software soon, this is just so horrible to use. Even though the activity has toned down here a bit, its no excuse to leave you guys using this shitty software. I've been using ikonboard and yabb amongst some others on the OFP side and man are they tons better than this. My main priority is to convert all old data to the new board, so no posts are lost. The contents of PMC TFW forum is priceless

And no I have not decided what forum software, perhaps same as in Frugals which is the vBulletin or the mentioned Ikonboard. If anyone know ultimatebb -> vbulletin/ikonboard coverters, please let me know.

ranger822 · Post by **ranger822** » 2006-11-08 12:57:00

I had a quick look over my three Firewire drives last night (750GB) - looks good. I will go thru and compile of listing of what I have . . . but might take a while.

Hum . . . do I hear there is some available space to host files? . . . How much space are we talking about? I assume there will be some room for new Israeli Theater stuff?

Snakeman, is your interest exclusively just the theater stuff or are you also interested in other stuff too? Pits, skins, tools, old exes like e-falcon . . etc? I have always thought it would be a good idea to distribute all the old Falcon files to several trusted people - periodically, to ensure things are not lost. I am way past worrying about whether someone is going to steal something - losing material is far worse. I will tell you a sad story about Rob "Viper" or "Haz" Senftle - last week I asked him about his work - he agreed to send it since he is out of Falcon now - - wrote me back that day cursing - HE LOST EVERYTHING - all his PSDs, all his work on OIF - everything except his working install. He has promised to send me his working install by mail, so at least we have that. The lesson here is backup your work and then send it to someone you trust. I have three firewires and three computers with most everything backed up at least 3 different places. If the Falcon community wants a volunteer to archive ALL FILES - - I would be happy to volunteer. I probably have a good portion already. I am talking about ALL FILES - legal or not, old or new . . . work is work and shouldn't be lost. If illegal it just should not be public - but there is still something to be learned from this material - like how something was done . . . etc. In many cases if you can wait long enough copyright issues will go away . . .and if there are still some diehards playing with Falcon - then even those files can be made public.

Lastly, I noticed that Israeli Theater - um doesn't have a moderator . .ehummm . . might you make me or Peled moderator? Under other circumstances I would prefer Dudi Likvornik be the moderator since he started the theater but he has been really busy with his military job in Israeli Army and therefore might not be "available" in the near future when I anticipate Israeli Theater forum will be more active (after public release). Any of the three of us would be a good choice because we are all very interested and would do our best.

Sherlock · Post by **Sherlock** » 2006-11-08 17:24:00

Here are the threads or posts at FW I referred to where guys are looking for files so they can host them:
http://forums.frugalsworld.com/vbb/show ... p?t=111957

Contact Daanvs at FW at this post (via PM): http://forums.frugalsworld.com/vbb/show ... tcount=305
He is currently hosting ODS .512 and will likely be willing to host the other PMC theaters.

Edit: I already PM'd Daanvs about hosting the other files. Will post here when I hear something from him on the matter.

Sherlock

Sherlock · Post by **Sherlock** » 2006-11-08 18:13:00

I received reply from Daanvs who said he would be glad to host the other PMC theaters. He just needs a download link (which I can provide if no one else has one). Here is what I currently have. Please let me know if it is not the most recent version:
Europe Beta v0.4
Hawaii 210
Israel v?
Nevada Beta v0.2
SP3Balkans
Vietnam Beta v0.8

I can see right away that I need to get the latest version of Afghanistan. Any others?

ranger822 · Post by **ranger822** » 2006-11-09 04:34:00

Here are the exe's I have on my HD's - doesn't include add-ons, kneeboards, skins, etc . .just the theater installer stuff. . . some of this may be junk - some of it may be useful . . I collect it all.

Afghanistan SP Beta v.0.1.exe
Afghanistan SP42_AFGHAN_Cust444._v0.3b.zip

FalconSP3BalkanTheater.exe
AMVI_Blakans_Fix_BMS1.03v0,99full.exe
FalconFFBalkanTheater.exe
Balkans Theater Installer 1.2d4.sit (macfalcon)

Dogfight.Theater.V1.0a.exe
(various additional files go with this exe)

Europe.SP.BETA.v0.4.exe
Europe.BETA.v0.4.fix.01.zip
Falcon4FFEuropeTheater.exe

Hawaii Theater
(various files)

Falcon4SPIsraeliTheater.exe
(various additional files)
Falcon4FFIsraeliTheater.exe

Korea2005
F4SPKoreanWinter.exe
Korea128.Theater.SPc.v0.1BETA.zip
Korean Winter Theater Installer.sit (macfalcon)

Nevada.SP.BETA.v0.2.exe
(Bird may have a newer installer - just not public)

ODS.SP.v0.3.exe
ODS.v0.3.update.zip
ODS.v0.1-CMP.upgrade.zip
BigstoneODSvs512.update.rar
DesStorm_Activation_V2.rar
DesertStormTheater.v0.512.rar
DesertStormTheaterv0512BMSpatch.rar
DesertStormActivation.exe
Falcon4FFDesertStormTheater,exe
ODS Installer 1.2.sit (macfalcon)

f4panama_v2.zip
F4PanamaBMS.zip
f4panama_l2update.zip

quebec.theater.beta.v0.1preview3.exe
qcterrainv14.zip

Vietnam.SP.BETA.v0.8.exe
Falcon4FFVietnamTheater.exe
Vietnam Installer 1.0.sit (macfalcon)

FFperu_4.17.exe
Peruupdate.rar

FF3_Cuba_alpha_0.0.1.2.exe
(entire developer's DVD)

Portugal 1.0 (macfalcon)

Falklands 1.0 (macfalcon)
(entire developer's files)

F4ME - nothing
Nordic - nothing
Falklands (PC Version) - nothing
Taiwan - nothing
Turkey - nothing
Libya - nothing
EAfrica - nothing
Spain - nothing
Aegean - nothing
Japan - nothing

ccc · Post by **ccc** » 2006-11-09 09:00:00

i lost Falkand and Falkand128.

Post by **Snake Man** » 2006-11-09 13:03:00

quote:Originally posted by Ranger:
Afghanistan SP Beta v.0.1.exe
Europe.BETA.v0.4.fix.01.zip
Korea128.Theater.SPc.v0.1BETA.zip
Nevada.SP.BETA.v0.2.exe
Vietnam.SP.BETA.v0.8.exe

These are the ones I'm missing now. I do have one file called "VIETNAMSPBETAV08.zip" but suffice to say that is not PMC original.

But we'll see if they can be found on the net somewhere. The snail-mail postal thing is very difficult for me at the moment. Expensive too, I take you live in the US so mailing it would not be just $1 or so heh.

Anyways, we'll see few days if anyone turns out who has them online.

ranger822 · Post by **ranger822** » 2006-11-09 14:43:00

what is a few bucks among friends? Just let me know I can burn and get it off in the mail. Send your mailing address to:

ranger822@earthlink.net

I think I still have you in my spam filter so you shouldn't get bounced.

T_Rex · Post by **T_Rex** » 2006-11-09 21:06:00

I'm almost positive I have at least some of them.

I'll see what I have and I can upload them.

ccc · Post by **ccc** » 2006-11-13 05:25:00

out of curiosity.. does it mean the restoration of download section.. or a revival of theater making?

ccc · Post by **ccc** » 2006-11-14 06:00:00

Alright, i finally dig out FalklandSP V0.1 beta zip. 8 mb. dated Dec 31, 2002.

according to readme.txt, this one is 128 theater for dev use only, not in installer form.

let me know if you need it.