Taiwan theater

[ccc]

a rough list of theater-related items.. to cover all era of battles.

if limited to modern era, the list would be much much shorter.

just for reference.


USA -
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Tank - M41, M60A3, M551, M48A5(LOD scaled down to correct size), M24,

Tracked armor- M901, M557, AAAV, M113A1(basic, tweak), LVTP-5, AAVC-7A1, M548 cargo, M2 Bradley tweak. M901 fix. M3 halftrack.
Wheeled armor- Jeep, M35 truck.
Artillery- M109, M106, M110, M110A2, M40,
Airdefence-AN/MPQ-50(Hawk radar), M42, Mk29L+MPQ-104 minor tweak. M163 new build. M3-quad 12.7 AAA.
Support/engineer- M88 tweak

USSR -
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Tank - T-54/55(new build),
Tracked armor- PT-76,
Wheeled armor-
Artillery- BM14, D-30(new model),
M46(152mm), , ZIS-3(76mm ATG), D-1 152mm
howitzer. 2S19 new build.

Airdefence- SA10(tombstone, CCV), KS-19,
,ZPU-1, ZPU-2, ZPU-4, S-60, Firecan-SON-9. ST68 Tin shield, M1939 AAA,
SA-2 launcher(new scale?),
1L13 EWR,
S300P 40B6M tr and 40B6MD and 30N6 radars, KS-12 AAA.

Support/engineer- Ural-375PBU, MAZ-house, Zil-131, UAZ-469 jeep,
GAZ-66, SA-2 transporter.
ATZ-10-4320, ATZ-7-4310, ATZ-22,


France -
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Wheeled armor- VAB-ATG(chinese copy, 4x4+HOT-HJ9).
Airdefence- Cortale TELAR/Srch R, ( chinese copy, HQ-7)

Germay -
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Airdefence- Gepard, Gepard-GWI ( chinese copy revealed lately)


Japan, Sweden, Taiwan, Brazil, China and other nations -?
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Tank - Type63 amph.tank, M48H ,
ZTZ-99 type99 MBT.
Tracked armor- YW531(new build), YW531 command, YW531H/534-VTT323-(Type85/89), CM21 APC.

Wheeled armor- WZ551(6x6 IFV), V150, WZ551(105mm SPATG).
Artillery- Silkworm ASM fixed launcher, 80mm motar, 120mm motar,
Type83 152mm SPH, Type89 120mm SPATG,
LT-2000 MRLS(tw), WZ551-120 SPMotar
Airdefence- Skyguard gun/SAM/radar system,
Chang-Bai phase array radar, CS/MPG-200 illuminating radar
(TK SAM-tw). DK-9 SAM(PLA), YW-531-25mm twin SPAAG. Type95 25mm SPAAG+ Radar command vehicle(PLA).



APPENDIX- a/c to be added -196?
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JJ-7 / two seater J-7. can be modified to Mig-21UB,
J-10B / PLA fighter-two seater. 0221
JH-7A _ FBC-1M/ PLAAF-PLAN striker, model tweaked for upgraded version. 0617.
Ka-27 ASW /Russian ASW chopper
Ka-31 AEW / Russian AEW chopper
F-CK-1A IDF / Taiwanese light fighter. complex model with multi-DOFs and rough skin. complete with 3d pit and shadow lod, AAM rack. 0821.
F-CK-1B IDF / Taiwanese jet trainer/light fighter. complex model tweaked from single seater. 0822.
AT-3A / Taiwanese jet trainer-light attacker. 0129 upgrade add all DOFs/textures.
J-8A / J-8 I+ finback PLAAF interceptor, early model - final 0912-06.
CH-46 Sea Knight / USN-USMC chopper - final 0726-06.
AH-1W / USMC attack chopper, done. texmapped by Ripsaw.
T-33 / USAF jet trainer, (t-m and skin by Twister)
C-119 / USAF cargo aircraft, tx-mapping by Ranger. AC-119 can be done on it.
SA330 Puma / French medium chopper, (t-m and skin by MadDog).(t-m and skin by Alex).
SA321 Super Frelon / French heavy chopper, 2 navy models, one Army. skinned by MadDog.
SA341/342 Gazelle / French scout-utility chopper.ITDG.
SA341/342 Gazelle-AT / French antitank chopper, (t-m and skining by Alex).
SA341/342 Gazelle-gunship / French antitank chopper, (t-m and skining by Alex).
SA350 Ecurecil / French light scout chopper, (t-m and skining by Alex).
SA365 Dauphin / French utility chopper, (t-m and skining by Alex.)
FC-1 (JF-17) / Sino-Pakistan light fighter, (t-m by Alex). final 0907-06.
F-84F Thunderstreak / USAF fighter/bomber, (t-m by Alex), final. 0630-06.
RF-84F Thunderflash / recon variant, (t-m by Alex). final 0704-06.
F-84E and G Thunderjet / USAF fighter, (t-m by Alex), final 0630-06.
F-101A/C Voodoo / USAF long-range single-seat fighter, final 0718-06.
P-3C and EP-3 / USN ASW and ELINT aircraft, converted by Rick, skined by Alex.
MH-60 Black hawk / US special force utility chopper, tweaked from MPS UH-60. add parts.
MH-47 Chinook / US special force utility chopper, tweaked from MPS CH-47, add parts.
CH-53 Super Stallion / US heavy chopper, 2 versions_IDF, converted-Rick, ITDG.
MH-53J Pave low / US assult chopper, add new nose parts.
OH-6A Cayuses / US special force utility-scout chopper, tweaked from MPS MD-500, tail tweak.
SH-60B Seahawk / USN ASW-ASuW chopper, tweaked from MPS UH-60, add parts.
Mi-6 Hook / Russian heavy chopper,(t-m by Alex). finalized by Ranger, ITDG.
F-5B two seater / jet trainer-fighter. no t-m, no skin.
AN-28 / Russian light transporter, .(t-m and skin by Twister).
AN-26 Curl / Russian medium transporter, final 0216-07.
SH-3 Seaking / USN chopper final 1116-06.
S-2 Tracker / simple lod-S-2 flyableXDOF, S-2 normal wing deck, and wing fold. tex-map 0804-06.
E-1B Tracer / Simple lod, wingfold decked test, - E1 flyable done 1205-06.
S-58 / US medium SAR chopper in Vnam,(t-m by Alex), done, ITDG.
Mig-21F-13/MF/PF/-93 upgrade - XDOF gear.
F-8E(FN) and F-8P / French crusader variants.
O-1 Birddog / upgrade 0121 - add XDOF for fuselage, nav lite, wing slots.
Mig-17PF / all-weather interceptor with only AA-1 armament variant. final 0913-06.
A-6A/E Intruder / almost 99.9% new build. no tex-mapping.
EA-6A/ EA-6B / new build based on new A-6E lod.
UH-1 Huey gunship- two m60 set or m134+rocket pod.
UH-1B gunship- chin gun + boxy rocket pods.
S-55 helicopter , done ITDG.
J-7E upgrade - XDOF, new small parts. 1108.05. FF4
J-8B upgrade - ditto, 1115.05. FF4
Mig-21F-13 and Mig-21PF-early upgrade - ditto 1116.05. FF4.
Su-33 upg 112005
Q-5 upg 112105. FF4.
F-100D upg 112605. FF4.
RF-101C upg 112905. FF4.
F-104AC (t-m by Alex), F-104G, F-104S/ASA upg 0301-06.FF4.
F-5A with wingtip tank XDOF.(t-m by Orion) 1206.05.
A-3 / B-66 upg 1208-05. XDOF complex.
F-8E tweak -add features and fix errors. 1209-05.
JH-7 upg -1211-05.
J-10A upg 1212-05.
Mig-17 upg 1220-05.
RA-5C - upg 1222-05.
U-2 / TR-1 / TR-2 upg 1225-05.
E-2c upg, XDOF wing folding, gear. 1228-05.
C-2A upg 1231-05.
C-141 upg 0106-06.
An-2 - XDOF 9.3 deg all ac test.
MV-22 - XDOF upgrade. 0114-06. ( Rick)
T-38 - XDOF upgrade 0125-06. ( t-m by Orion, send to Bird)
K-8 - limited XDOF upgrade 0206-06. final.
C-47 Skytrain - US transporter. AC-47 can be done on it.
F-4E / *tweak Thoarek's lod - also tweak a F-4E-1982, a F-4C. can be further edited for others.
F-86F - Saber. USAF korean fighter. final.
F-86K - Sabre dog variant, final 0901-06.
A-129A/B Mongusta - upgrade with pilots and seats. 0715-07.( can use as Z-10)
IL-76 - Russian jet cargo. converted from MSFS freeware. final 0822-06.
IL-78 - Russian tanker. final 0909-06.
KJ-2000 - PLAAF AWACS-phase radar. final 0824-06.
Tu-16/H-6A - rebuild main body and wing parts. 0216-07. / ITDG.
Tu-16N - replaced with new chin radar fairing 0223-07.
IL-28 - minor tweak with new wing, engine nacelle and pitot tube/tailguns / ITDG.
P-51D - mustang final 1225-06.
C-124 Globemaster II - final 1230-06.
C-133 Cargomaster - final 0102-07.
Tu-2 bomber - final 0113-07.
RF-5E Tigereye - tweaked from Fred F-5E. final 0224-07.


APPENDIX- missile/weapon/pod store to be added -43===================================================

M117R / retard bomb, tweaked from M117.
C801 / Chinese antiship missile, copy of Exocet. = YJ-8/8K/8Q.
C802 / Chinese antiship missile, turbojet-propelled. = YJ-82/82K
Scud / Russian tactical ballistic SSM. rebuild with new skin.
SD-10 / PL-12 / PLA active radar-homing AAM.
Teng-Kong-2 / TK-2 AAM - Taiwanese BVRAAM.
Hsiung-Feng II / HF-2 ASM - Taiwanese Antiship missile.
Type57 rocket pod -PLA, 11 tube, 57mm
Type90 rocket pod -PLA, 7 tube, 90mm
TOW missile tube pack for chopper - 2 tube, 4 tube.
Drop tank - F-86. done.
X-switched SAM booster - SA-2/ -3/ -4/ -5/ -12A/ -12B/ Nike-hercules.



SHIP- 35
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FF Kang-Ding - Taiwanese La Fayette class frigate.
CV Kuznestov - Russian carrier. partially t-m and skining. FF4.
LST Newport - USN amphibious landing ship, no t-m, no skin.
LST Terrebonne Parish - USN/Peru amphibious landing ship.
FFG Perry - re-structuring 0721.
FFG Cheng Kong - Taiwanese Perry, upgrade from FFG Perry, add new parts.
FF Knox - re-structuring and upgrade 0730.
DDG Kidd - done 1220-05.
FF Leander - re-structuring and upgrade 0803.
LCM-6 / LCM-8
LCU-1600
LSD - Polnochny - Russina amphibious ship tweak 0325.
SSK Kilo - Russian patrol sub.
SS Romeo / PLAN type 033.
PTM Osa II - Russian missile boat, tweak 031405
PTM Pauk - Russian patrol boat, tweak 032505
LST Champlain - French amphibious ship.
LHD Wasp - USN amphibious ship.
CV59 Forrestal / 0125 upgrade with meatball/radar/landing lites. t-m by Ron.
CV64 Connie / 0125 upgrade, ditto.
CV41 Midway /0215 upgrade, ditto.
FFG Jiangwei I - PLAN frigate.
FFG Jiangwei II - PLAN frigate.
FFG Jiangkai - PLAN stealthy frigate.
DDG Luhu
DDG Luhai
DDG Luyang
DDG Luyang II - PLAN agies ADS.
DDG Type 051C impproved Luhai- airdefense version.
DDG Sovremenny - Russian ASuW destroyer, 956 and 956E(PLAN).
DDG Sovremenny 956EM- ASuW destroyer upgrade with new CIWS (PLAN).
LST Ropucha - Russian tank landing ship, I and II.
LST Alligator - Russian tank landing ship.
FF4 tweak - Ticonderoga, Kidd, Spruance, Spruance-VLS, Perry.
FF Jianghu - Jianghu I, III, IV, V. chinese PLAN frigate.
DD Luda - PLAN destroyer, I , I-105/heli hanger, II, and III.
DD Gearing FRAM - ex-US destroyer with upgrade program/ Taiwan/Turkey/Argentina/Greek..
CGN Virginia - USN nuclear cruiser, final 0606-06.
CGN Truxtun -USN nuclear crusier, final 0607-06.
DDG Farragit - USN missile destroyer, final 0608-06.
DDG Charles F Adams - USN missile destroyer, final 0610-06.
DDG Albright Buke - USN agies destroyer, upgrade 0802-06.
CV-11 Lexington final 0107-07.
CVN-65 Enterprise upg 0806-06.
CV - Essex for Korea50 - final 0116-07. add straight deck and gun stations.
CG Leahy, California, Banbridge, Belknap, Long beach, - LOD re-structuring and node fusing.

[Snake Man]

Taiwan Theater Airbase list :
DPRK: MAHUILING
DPRK: YIWU
DPRK: LONG YOU
DPRK: QUXIAN
DPRK: NANCHANG NEW
DPRK: LUQIAQ
DPRK: NANCHANG/XIANGTANG
DPRK: LINJIANG
DPRK: JIAN
DPRK: JIANGLUO
DPRK: MA TSU
DPRK: MATSU SOUTH
DPRK: GANZHOU
DPRK: LIANGCHENG
DPRK: QINGYANG
DPRK: CHINMEN
DPRK: SHATOU
DPRK: TA SHAN TING
DPRK: SHANTOU NORTHEAST
ROK: PRATAS ISLAND
ROK: CHIANG KAI SHEK INTL
ROK: SUNGSHAN
ROK: TAOYUAN
ROK: PA KUEI
ROK: AO HU KOU
ROK: LUNG TAN
ROK: HSINCHU
ROK: CHING CHUAN KANG AB
ROK: TAICHUNG
ROK: HUALIEN
ROK: MAKUNG AB
ROK: P ENG HU
ROK: CHIAYI
ROK: KUEI JEN
ROK: TAINAN
ROK: CHIHHANG
ROK: KANGSHAN
ROK: FENG NIN
ROK: PINGTUNG NORTH
ROK: PINGTUNG SOUTH
ROK: KAOHSIUNG INTL
ROK: ORCHID ISLAND

DPRK being China and ROK being Taiwan of course.

[Malc]

Ok, I tried the AF install and it punched out at SPTinstall, because of the space issue still. Maybe Fred will know if there was ever a workaround for that.

So far, so good.

T_dude... can't the sptinstall can be gotten round by putting the commandline optional text in quotes!?

Here's the snippet from my AF installer... (Clickteam)

Code: Select all

-auto "#InstallDir#\Panama\terrdata\panama"

If I leave out the " tinstall.exe fails also, but the above works pretty.

HTH!

[Malc]

Also, we should check with Malc and see if lstupdate is OS-dependent or .NET dependent.

T_dude,

I checked lstupdate.exe on all three machines I have here, my laptap is very clean and probably the best testbed as I know it doesn't have any VB6 runtime stuff installed at all, and it worked fine on that.

So, short answer, there should be no dependancies at all!

All that said, it looks like your problem is fixed now?

[ccc]

Taiwan Theater Airbase list :
DPRK: MAHUILING type 1 21-3
DPRK: YIWU tye 1 2-20
DPRK: LONG YOU type 1 34-16
DPRK: QUXIAN
DPRK: NANCHANG NEW type 1 21-3
DPRK: LUQIAQ type 1 2-20
DPRK: NANCHANG/XIANGTANG type 1 1-19
DPRK: LINJIANG
DPRK: JIAN
DPRK: JIANGLUO

DPRK: MA TSU ( udner taiwan control ) type 1 2-20
DPRK: MATSU SOUTH ( udner taiwan control ) tpe 1 2-20

DPRK: GANZHOU type 1 32-14, guangzhou
DPRK: LIANGCHENG type 1 2-20
DPRK: QINGYANG tye 1 2-20
DPRK: CHINMEN ( udner taiwan control ) type 1 8-26
DPRK: SHATOU type 1 21-3
DPRK: TA SHAN TING
DPRK: SHANTOU NORTHEAST type 1 21-3

ROK: PRATAS ISLAND <not>
ROK: CHIANG KAI SHEK INTL use type 2, 2-20
ROK: SUNGSHAN type 1 11-29 or 29-11
ROK: TAOYUAN type 1 2-20
ROK: PA KUEI <army>
ROK: AO HU KOU <army>
ROK: LUNG TAN <army>
ROK: HSINCHU 5-23 use type 1 , 8-26
ROK: CHING CHUAN KANG AB use type 7, or use type 2, 34-16
ROK: TAICHUNG 18-36 use type 1 36-18
ROK: HUALIEN 3-21 use type 2, 2-20

ROK: MAKUNG AB 2-20 type 1 2-20

ROK: PENG HU 2-20 type 1 2-20

ROK: CHIAYI 18-36 type 1 36-18

ROK: KUEI JEN <army>

ROK: TAINAN 18-36 type 2 34-16
ROK: CHIHHANG 4-22 type 1 21-3

ROK: KANGSHAN type 1 36-18
ROK: FENG NIN type 1 21-3
ROK: PINGTUNG NORTH 9-27 type 1 8-26
ROK: PINGTUNG SOUTH 9-27 type 1 8-26
ROK: KAOHSIUNG INTL 9-27 use type 3
ROK: ORCHID ISLAND type 1 32-14

DPRK being China and ROK being Taiwan of course.

>> due to different spelling of base name, i cant find some item in bold letters.. if you can mark them on a map, i'll try search thru google earth.

[T_Rex]

T_dude... can't the sptinstall can be gotten round by putting the commandline optional text in quotes!?

Here's the snippet from my AF installer... (Clickteam)

Code: Select all

-auto "#InstallDir#\Panama\terrdata\panama"

If I leave out the " tinstall.exe fails also, but the above works pretty.

I thought of that, too, and will try it. It would need to be a single quote ' ' I think, because the double quote is already supposed to take care of that.

As for the lstupdate, I'm not sure what the issue is there. It seems to be inconsistent at this point. We'll see how the ver. 3 installer works.

[Snake Man]

due to different spelling of base name, i cant find some item in bold letters.. if you can mark them on a map, i'll try search thru google earth.

Here they are, temporary image and I'll remove it when you're done with it. Please let me know.



TA SHAN TING name is not visible, its on the lowest red circle, the left most airbase on the group of three.

[ccc]

DPRK: QUXIAN type 1 3-21

DPRK: LINJIANG type 1 8-26
DPRK: JIAN type 1 34-16
DPRK: JIANGLUO type 1 3-21

DPRK: TA SHAN TING ( this one is on kimen island, under taiwan control IIRC, it's an old, abandoned rough strip in 50 era). use type 4 N-S.

[ccc]

two rough theater icons.. the colors are more saturated.

[Fafa]

Hi folks

I've Adapted TAIWAN 0.3 campaigns for being more realistic.

Save0.CAM (Campaign selective 2)
Fictitious conflict US/EUROPE/TAIWAN COALITION VS CHINA

Save1.CAM (Campaign selective 3)
Same conflict without US and Europe.

Squadron numbers (Blue or red)adapted as real as it can be. Lots of planes for variety.
However some China fighters are put on airfields near their orig airfield (Except for the J10) because the theater shows the Province of Fujian whose airfield are not occupied in peace time.
I took the squadrons from GUANGDONG, HUNAN, JIANGXI and ZHEJIANG regions.



Just for pleasure...

OF_Version
RV_Version
Original files.

[ccc]

@Fafa - does the new campaign work properly and can reach an end- win or lose?

[Sherlock]

@Fafa - does the new campaign work properly and can reach an end- win or lose?

Also, can it be played from both sides, i.e, Force on Force?

[ccc]

i installed v0.3 on Fresh falcon4 - it still poped out that error message [ no AF or F4 ], i proceeded the install, and set it the current one theater.

when i entered the sim - i can't find taiwan theater- there's no such theater listed in theater menu. what's wrong?

i can check terrain with terrainview, but can not load features.

[Fafa]

No prob for me installing V 0.3. Can enter the 3D world.

@ CCC and sherlock : seems it works from both sides. Win or lose conditions have not been changed from 0.3 (for the moment).

About those campaign OF and AF version will be done with their own DB except if someone is working on campaigns....

[Volk01]

I have been installing Falcon OF 4.2 and RV 1.0 and I use MultiFalcon to access them without problems. However after installing the Taiwan and Iran theaters, when I am in OF of CTD when I try to change the theaters (any one) or when I am in the active theater and I carry the mission. In RV everything continues usually working.

[Snake Man]

DPRK: TA SHAN TING ( this one is on kimen island, under taiwan control IIRC, it's an old, abandoned rough strip in 50 era). use type 4 N-S.

Thanks for the data, will be added to the next version.

two rough theater icons.. the colors are more saturated.

They look ok, though they really don't look like the "scheme" as the all other theater logos/icons. Is there any chance you could produce same sort of result? Do you remember who made the originals, was it Teddy or someone like that?

I think the originals are default Korea, I think Balkans then PMC stuff like ODS, Europe, Afghanistan and Vietnam. Dunno if I had anything else done.

I've Adapted TAIWAN 0.3 campaigns for being more realistic.

Did you use TCL scripts or manual work?

It would be nice to concentrate the effort, ie to have me include the stuff in the next release.

does the new campaign work properly and can reach an end- win or lose?

Why is it that you have this tone of "damn snake makes incomplete stuff!"

I mean suggest me some victory conditions (which reguire ground unit movement to capture objects, right?) and I'll add them into the next release.

can it be played from both sides, i.e, Force on Force?

Umm I dont understand you question... if you think about F4AF which I assume you do, its only playable by F-16s and E-3 AWACS because thats how LP edited the valid-aircraft file.

If you want to fly other aircrafts, you need to use edited validAC.bin file.

And yes the triggers can be made with victory conditions on both sides, so its possible to lose a campaign, not just win or die trying

i installed v0.3 on Fresh falcon4 - it still poped out that error message [ no AF or F4 ], i proceeded the install, and set it the current one theater.

Okay... on fresh falcon4... of what version? or did you mean F4 as FF4?

Or is this a bug report that it was stock default Falcon 4 install, installer did give you error but still you were able to continue the install?

i can check terrain with terrainview, but can not load features.

Thats because you dont have the TDF files.

except if someone is working on campaigns

Well I made this theater "just for fun" as everyone was bitching about it for so long time and nobody ever created it... so its a hobby theater if you can call it that, but surely I'm interested of developing it further, you guys just need to guide me to the right direction of WHAT to edit. So how about it?

I have been installing Falcon OF 4.2 and RV 1.0 and I use MultiFalcon to access them without problems. However after installing the Taiwan and Iran theaters, when I am in OF of CTD when I try to change the theaters (any one) or when I am in the active theater and I carry the mission.

Can you tell me more about this multifalcon?

Use regedit (win start -> run and type regedit) then find HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microprose\Falcon\4.0\ and curTheater value. Maybe this is whats bugging in your multifalcon system?

[Fafa]

Fafa wrote:
I've Adapted TAIWAN 0.3 campaigns for being more realistic.

Did you use TCL scripts or manual work?

It would be nice to concentrate the effort, ie to have me include the stuff in the next release.

Manual work.
No prob for the effort, OF version is to be available tonight.
AF(ter)...

[ccc]

Quote:
two rough theater icons.. the colors are more saturated.

They look ok, though they really don't look like the "scheme" as the all other theater logos/icons. Is there any chance you could produce same sort of result? Do you remember who made the originals, was it Teddy or someone like that?

I think the originals are default Korea, I think Balkans then PMC stuff like ODS, Europe, Afghanistan and Vietnam. Dunno if I had anything else done.

sorry i am not a PSP master, those two are my best.

ccc wrote:
does the new campaign work properly and can reach an end- win or lose?

Why is it that you have this tone of "damn snake makes incomplete stuff!"

I mean suggest me some victory conditions (which reguire ground unit movement to capture objects, right?) and I'll add them into the next release.

sure... but i got to have my install working first.

ccc wrote:
i installed v0.3 on Fresh falcon4 - it still poped out that error message [ no AF or F4 ], i proceeded the install, and set it the current one theater.

Okay... on fresh falcon4... of what version? or did you mean F4 as FF4?

Or is this a bug report that it was stock default Falcon 4 install, installer did give you error but still you were able to continue the install?

yest fresh falcon4.0, RV, then install Taiwan v 0.3. i cannot find any taiwan theater listed in theater selection menu.

Quote:
i can check terrain with terrainview, but can not load features.

Thats because you dont have the TDF files.

huh? i found a taiwan.tdf file in Taiwan folder.. but it won't work.

[Malc]

ccc wrote:
i installed v0.3 on Fresh falcon4 - it still poped out that error message [ no AF or F4 ], i proceeded the install, and set it the current one theater.

huh? i found a taiwan.tdf file in Taiwan folder.. but it won't work.

Have you checked theater.lst in the install directory root?

If you're getting an error No AF or F4, then lstupdate is failing and the taiwan entry won't be there.

[ccc]

Have you checked theater.lst in the install directory root?

If you're getting an error No AF or F4, then lstupdate is failing and the taiwan entry won't be there.

yes it failed. taiwan entry not in theater.lst. it probably due to new theater folder structure.

[T_Rex]

Hey Malc- there seems to be an intermittent problem with how NSIS uses your lstupdate. I think I'll try that double quote trick and see if it makes a difference.... Either that, or there's a problem with the script and it carries a null in that variable up to the lstupdate line.

[Snake Man]

huh? i found a taiwan.tdf file in Taiwan folder.. but it won't work.

Yes because its not a terrainview TDF file. Theaters\Taiwan\taiwan.tdf file is the theater definition file.

yes it failed. taiwan entry not in theater.lst. it probably due to new theater folder structure.

What in the world are you babbeling about? How would new theater dir structure cause something like that, please.

The problem is that theaters.lst file was not update for one reason or another. Something wrong with the installer I bet, maybe that you're having spaces in the dir name like c:\program files\microprose\ etc?

[ccc]

no spaces in dir name.

c:\MicroProse\Falcon4

can i update theater.lst manually and have it working? if yes, please post the content of your theater.lst.

[ccc]

i change the content of theater.lst to

# list of all know theaters
terrdata\theaterdefinition\korea.tdf
terrdata\theaterdefinition\korea_2005.tdf
terrdata\theaterdefinition\eurowar.tdf
Theaters\Taiwan\taiwan.tdf

it works and switches to taiwan theater..

the small occupation map shows a layer of korea penisula.
TE - not working
1st campaign - try fly F15 > control code error.. freeze. [ control code error : can't read far texture 41470.]

[Fafa]

Update for OF version HERE. .
RV and OF version works for me.

@CCC : No prob here with the F15.

[ccc]

@CCC : No prob here with the F15.

errr.. i'll do a totally fresh install again..

[ccc]

reinstall f4, RV and Taiwan v0.3.

summary of my findings-

1. for those using wide screen 1280x800, redviper exe command should add "-hires"

C:\MicroProse\Falcon4\RedViper.exe -hires

2. lst updater still fails. i tweak it myself and the new theater shows up.

3. new theater icon, taiwan tga, should be 16 bit tga.

4. in the occupation map, there's a layer of korea pennisula picture, tho all taiwan/china airbases are located correctly.

5. in sim, still CTD. i found the TexCompress.exe and run it again, then i can enter the campaign, no problem. it seems texcompress failed at some point of installation.

[ccc]

It works now- down 7 ac in one flight 8)

[Snake Man]

Wonder why you have such problems running the installer?

[T_Rex]

ccc -does lstupdate consistently fail to write the line?

SM - I'll write up those execwaits with the apostrophes - maybe that will help...

[ccc]

yes - lstupdate fails to add the line.

also TexCompress fails to run during the install process.

[ccc]

request for changing base names..

ROK: AO HU KOU <army> --> HU KOU

ROK: P ENG HU 2-20 type 1 2-20 --> PENG HU


[ airbase error on Kimen/Chinmen island ]
http://local.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en& ... 07,0.21595

on the right, Chinmen .. now an abandoned airstrip..
one the center, Shatou .. now the main airport, renamed to Shangyi, or Kinmen.
as for Ta Shan Ting.. it's an abandoned short airstrip on small Kimen island, the one at left hand side.. as you can see, no runway noted.

DPRK: CHINMEN ( udner taiwan control ) type 1 8-26
DPRK: SHATOU type 1 21-3
DPRK: TA SHAN TING

[ccc]

@Fafa - i've checked your new campaigns..yes more realistc squadrons..you may remove most euorpean fighters/attackers out.

-Parasta island airbase > not in mil operation.

- you may add a Kuznestov carrier battle group, and su33. china is about to got some naval flanker on Varyag.

- US carrier groups won't stay in Taiwan strait.. just too dangerous.. the carrier groups will station at NE, E, SE side of Taiwan.

-airbase and squadron on Taiwan.. see

http://www.scramble.nl/tw.htm

summary-

Sunshan - just civil ac, adminstration sq. no mil ac. duphin helicopterx1 sq

Taichung - civil , duphin helo x1

Kaohsiung - civil, duphin helo x1.

Hsinchu - mirage 2000-5, 3 sq

chin chun kang - IDF x 2 sq.

hualien, RF5Ex1 RF16x1 F16x3 sq

Makung IDF x1 detachemnt

chiayi F16x3 sq

Tainan IDF x3 sq

kangshan AT3x1 T34x1

Pintung south C130x2 E2c x1

Pintung north S-2 x2

Taoyuan S2x2

Taitung F-5 x3

[army helo bases]
Kueijan CH47x1 AH1W x1 UH1x2 OH58x1
Lungtan AH1W x1 UH1x1 OH58x1
Hsinshe AH1W x1 UH1x1 OH58x1
Tsoying - Tashien huge 500md x1 S70x1

[ccc]

few more summary about red side..

Anqing North - H6H, Y8EW

Changxing J7II, J10

Hangzhou-Jiangqiao Q5x3, JH7 x1 sq

Jiaxing q5x1

Nanchang-Xiangtang J7II, J11/Su27

Nanjing-Dajiaochang H6

Quzhou J7II J7D SU30MKK

Rugao J7 JJ7

Shanghai-Chongming Island J8D

Suzhou JZ6

Wuxi-Shuofang KJ200

Wuhu J7E SU30

Xuzhou Daguozhang J7

Zhangshu J7E

Dangyang H6 HU6 IL76

Foshan (Guangzhou-Shadi) J8D

Guangzhou-East J7

Leiyang H6 HU6

Shantou Northeast J7II

Shaoguan J6

Suixi J7 J8D J11 Su27 Su30MKK

Luqiao J7E J7H SU30Mk2

Ningbo Zhangquio J7EH

Shanghai-Dachang JH7

Yiwu JH7

Leiyang HZ5

[Fafa]

Mhhh ok, I took already info sources from this website but info source also from Air Fan october 2006 dedicated to China Airforce, so some infos about squadron deployments are not the same, and I had to make choices.

For the US/EUROPE Squadron it's just the first campaign, The goal is to fly some occidental aircrafts and for almost falconeers their plane of reference. But the second campaign (third photo on RV and second in OF I think) is only Taiwan VS China.

The CIS Carrier group/SU33 is also put on the campaign but not visible because neutral.

VARYAG (Kutznetsov brother) is in Dalian and not operationnal yet. Rumors say it wil be converted in hotel and not carrier. I must also add Minsk/Kiev (China) and LPD DOKO and LPH OSUMI (Taiwan) but I must request what are you interested in ?

I will give you a list of Tacedit implement in this campaign as soon as possible in order you to tell me what do you whant to keep or leave.

@CCC, FC1 is in DB but not 3DDB (OF and RV) A3D model/lod could be interesting. I Saw on FF lots of Taiwan fighters screenshots, are they available or is there a black project ?

[Fafa]

http://fafa.griffons.free.fr/Falcon4/Th ... China1.JPG

http://fafa.griffons.free.fr/Falcon4/Th ... China2.JPG

http://fafa.griffons.free.fr/Falcon4/Th ... China3.JPG

[Snake Man]

Fafa, please, don't link images of 1.2megabytes each.

[Sherlock]

Fafa, please, don't link images of 1.2megabytes each.

But they do contain good info!

[Snake Man]

No I mean "hotlink" the images to become visible on the topic, therefore making everyone download 3 x 1.2mb and also the topic is way too wide making it annoying to read.

I mean 1.2mb image size is just ridiculous (for web use), sure you can give the link for it to click if someone chooses to, but to force it on your face is not cool.

[Fafa]

Mhhhh sorry... 8)