Cockpit for fun

ccc · Post by **ccc** » 2001-02-21 04:22:00

Alright, start a new thread to post some pits(for fun)

heard RP5 will include a SU30..

pic at another thread:
http://www.pmctactical.org/f4/ubb/Forum ... 00060.html

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ccc · Post by **ccc** » 2001-02-21 10:04:00

hehe grab more panel arts from Microwing..most great artwork comes from Phil

F100, F104, A37, A1, A4?, B52, etc.
it will take a while to check their quality, then do tests.

BTW, news from simhq:
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- There is a new utility available for WWII Fighters.The J3Editor allows the user to view and modify all of the game's object models, including planes, ground objects and terrain, in a 3D graphical modeling environment. The utility is freeware and is available for download from the Downloads section at http://ww2f.dogfighter.com.
Posted 02/21/01 - 1:30 AM ET
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err...we need 3d tool too..or there wont be any good 3d pits!!

ccc · Post by **ccc** » 2001-02-22 04:44:00

Few more test samples:
note: 2d arts from Phil perrott. these samples are for fun and test.

A1 pit test: the scale is about right. the canopy frames could be too thin.

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ccc · Post by **ccc** » 2001-02-22 10:54:00

Few MORE test samples!!
It could take a while to show all pics.
most pit art by Phil. all DL from microwing.

A37: hmm..panel occupied too much space..

B52: ya! this is the right feeling "on the station"!

F104: adequately postitioned, though move a bit upward looks better.

f84: superb! straigth from photograph. i like it!

Gripen: from photo too, zoom out a little?

Jaguar: very nice drawing by Phil! zoom in a little sounds better.

viggen: well, from photo, a bit shift too right. however it looks really cool..zoom out?

ccc · Post by **ccc** » 2001-02-22 11:00:00

PS: after searching all Microwing libarary,

pit art not available: F100/RF101/F105/F106/A3/A5/F8/Mig17/mig21

pit art quality not satisfactory:
F4/F102/A4/A6/A7/mig19/tornado

==end of test==

comment: i like photorealistic pit

anyone want pit GIF files for further developement/templete. leave your email address.

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ccc · Post by **ccc** » 2001-02-23 02:05:00

Some kind words from Phil, BIG THANX!!!
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HI,

just checked out your link and everything is AOK, you may use all those
panels of mine which are shown there.

Best regards,

Phil Perrott
ALPHA SIMULATIONS
www.alphasim.co.uk

----- Original Message -----
From: "ccc" <twwu>
To: "AlphaSim" <phil>
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 1:12 PM
Subject: Re:

> Hi Phil,
>
> for now I have no idea which one to convert, i downloaded your artwork
from
> Microwing.
> i do some test to evaluate their scale/size for Falcon4.0:
>
> http://www.pmctactical.org/f4/ubb/Forum ... 00038.html
>
> those pics are test samples, i wont send them to others.
> if you dont want to give away those artwork to Falcon4 community, let me
> know, i'll post an announcement on forum and stop using those pits.
>
> cheers,
>
> ccc
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Widowmaker · Post by **Widowmaker** » 2001-02-23 20:42:00

keep up the good work

you are doing a fine one....

Widowmaker

ccc · Post by **ccc** » 2001-02-26 04:31:00

Just found more nice panels from "Mirages fro MSFS" site.

wonderful mirage panels: (too bad no mirage in f4 world yet, i'll DL some for visuals, btw, maybe Aeyes can use some photorealist parts from one of them)

http://www.flightsimmers.net/airbase/mirage/panels.html

And latest mirage2000 model in mdl format..drooling.
m2000 sounds also available.

http://www.flightsimmers.net/airbase/mi ... age2k.html

ccc · Post by **ccc** » 2001-02-26 04:56:00

hmm.. test result: the 800x600 bmp file for mirageIII/F1/Kfir could be too rough, though can be used as templetes.
the mirage2000-5 photorealistic panel is great, sharpening the image will do the job

Aeyes · Post by **Aeyes** » 2001-02-27 13:20:00

I am doing a different model of the Mirage 2K, the C variant:

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172ndhamm · Post by **172ndhamm** » 2001-02-28 17:42:00

ccc, you big tease!
re: A-1
Any thing is better than nothing, but from the pics i've seen, the pilot appears to sit pretty high in pit. Most 'pits i've seen take up too much screen space for my taste, but that's just a pet peeve- I'll fly em if y'all make em, and enjoy it too!

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ccc · Post by **ccc** » 2001-03-01 04:35:00

ya, big tease

hope we can import an A1 ASAP!
BTW, I got no idea about the view field while sitting in the pit..FOV too high? I'd like to find some good pics taken from pilots' eye-level, so we can decide what to inculde in the center view!

BTW, few more test sample(again "borrow" from MSFS free resources)

Mirage2000-5: ya, i know Aeyes' superb 2000c. this one comes from real photo(frame not included)..give you a sense of glass pit

mirageIII pit: well..no good, but can be used for templete. the photo parts are blurred.

Mirage F1: for templete only. short of details.

ccc · Post by **ccc** » 2001-04-07 13:37:00

Found a nice page for MSFS2000 pit:

http://www.globalflightdeck.com/fs2000/pan_fighter.htm

hmm.. some pit arts look very nice, especiall the one with co-pilot of SAAB105, best for A6 or F111 pit!!

will try to get some files for test.

Com_gp · Post by **Com_gp** » 2001-04-08 15:37:00

Ive found this cool link, it has bunch of good cockpit photos,

http://avia.russian.ee/air/cockpits/planes_west.html

ComGP

ccc · Post by **ccc** » 2001-04-09 05:05:00

thanx. I got that link a while ago

ccc · Post by **ccc** » 2001-04-24 11:47:00

original art from Phil.
for test only.

ccc · Post by **ccc** » 2001-04-25 15:03:00

One more, J-8IIM mockup with Aeyes' phantom and fulcrum pits.
the pit layout info is extremely limited. my best quess is mig21 pit + some russian avonic upgrades.

>> pic deleted, no further development.

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CAG · Post by **CAG** » 2001-04-26 20:34:00

Hey ccc how about sharing the wealth! I could use some of these pits.... where can Iget the art?

ccc · Post by **ccc** » 2001-04-27 02:36:00

quote:Originally posted by CAG:
Hey ccc how about sharing the wealth! I could use some of these pits.... where can Iget the art?

two ways:
1.go to www.flightsim.com or search the site " Microwing", search their file library for microsoft flight simulator panel(cockpit) files.

2.list what you want from the pics i posted, mail you asap.

btw, what you want them for? FA?

note: you got to edit cockpit.dat files yourself to enable correct positions of all instrument!

ccc · Post by **ccc** » 2001-04-27 11:48:00

A10 pit test again. original by Phil, original files from Microwing libarary.

only four view done.

Widowmaker · Post by **Widowmaker** » 2001-04-27 15:22:00

very nice A10 pit

please work it out ccc

I heard Xis dropped his A10 pit, wich is too bad..so we gonna need it

Widmak

ccc · Post by **ccc** » 2001-04-28 03:11:00

Na..I've passed files to SilkMan, F4A will make final decision.
In fact, I heard Xis' finishing up something about his A10 pit.

hehe, one more imcomplete sample here

ccc · Post by **ccc** » 2001-04-29 02:58:00

converted AV8B pit, original by Phil.

ccc · Post by **ccc** » 2001-04-29 04:17:00

test sample again. mig15/17.

CAG · Post by **CAG** » 2001-05-09 16:49:00

ccc.... can you email me the link to the F-84 and MiG 15/17 Cockpit? Thanks...

VNFAHotshot@netscape.net

CAG · Post by **CAG** » 2001-05-09 17:12:00

Oops also the MiG-21.... hehe

ccc · Post by **ccc** » 2001-05-10 11:48:00

if you are in a hurry, check this:

http://www.alphasim.co.uk/FlightDeck2.htm

>> I like these pits, their layout and scale are excellently balanced for 10_12_c views)

http://www.alphasim.co.uk/

>> check their preview pages!

Beware: most pit art there are copyrighted!!!(ya, great template for further development)

The ones i converted and posted here are for fun, no public release (except for those grabed from Mircrowing MSFS resource libarary, which authorized by Phil.)

CAG · Post by **CAG** » 2001-05-10 14:54:00

No joy on the F-84 Panel....

And where does this guy get off charging for these panels when most of them are already in shareware?

ccc · Post by **ccc** » 2001-05-10 15:26:00

F84 pit itself is a real shot.
i got it from Microwing libarary.

hmm..CAG, if you want them for FA, you could dig lots out of Alpha sim site

i suppose some shareware pits were built before Phil joining Alpha sim and, you can find his latest pits use photo parts more skillfully, and looks more detailed in texture quality.

MAVDON1 · Post by **MAVDON1** » 2001-05-12 17:56:00

CCC,
Are we talking A-1 SkyRaider here, or was that a misprint and supposed to read A-10?
Once into all this 3-D thing, and I get good, my list of things is in the following order:
1. BLU-76
2. A-1 SkyRaider 3D model
3. A-1 SkyRaider cockpit
4. A-6 Intruder cockpit

Regards, Don Mac

ccc · Post by **ccc** » 2001-05-13 03:43:00

quote:Originally posted by MAVDON1:
CCC,
Are we talking A-1 SkyRaider here, or was that a misprint and supposed to read A-10?

ya, both A1 and A10 in this thread. no typo.
This thread contains various pits, only one A-1 pit. you can have it later, for evaluation.

if you want to do this pit and a/c, start collecting info now! we got an A-1 thread on Vietnam section.

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Hunter · Post by **Hunter** » 2001-05-23 17:16:00

Hi all, good job you guys doing here.
Interesting work with that AV-8b.

I'm working with F4Alliance on the Harrier mod and making a pit myself. Hope to show you some betas soon.
Cheers.

Widowmaker · Post by **Widowmaker** » 2001-05-23 17:37:00

Woul be very cool
I heard the fixing up of the av8b model is well in progress

good luck you guys

Widmak

ccc · Post by **ccc** » 2001-05-24 01:38:00

Hunter,
if you need this av8 pit sample for evaluation, let me know.

Hunter · Post by **Hunter** » 2001-05-24 15:39:00

Thanks CCC, I have a layout of that one already, took it from an add-on for MFS.

CAG · Post by **CAG** » 2001-06-05 21:21:00

ccc why wont you give up some opf these pits for development? I cant find them on the pages you list as most of the pages are dead... I would really like to get ahold of the MiG-21 and the MiG-15/17 pits... can you send them to my email?

VNFAHotshot@netscape.net

ccc · Post by **ccc** » 2001-06-06 01:15:00

CAG,
Honsetly i've sent you those pits once you requested a while ago.
Obviously you didnt get them.
I receive your mail said "what's this junk?" oops!

sure, will send u again, 12 hours later.

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CAG · Post by **CAG** » 2001-06-08 19:59:00

Ahhhhh!! I never accept email without a description so I know who its coming from and what it is so as to avoid virus infection... Now I know that was you! hehe...

Thanks!

rodion_h · Post by **rodion_h** » 2002-05-13 02:24:00

Am about to start on a BUFF panel soon.

Don't hold your breath though--I'll do this in my own time (kinda busy at office). Besides, I've just begun F4 panel work--wish me luck.

"May the panelgod Aeyes shower me with his blessings...hehehe"

-RODION