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I have added the imroved flanker models to my website, if someone wants them...

Click here
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Cool, anything on the Mig-29s in SP4, and the WCMD i sent back to you yesterday?
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This one fills the missing vehicle in SA10 battery.. Image
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quote: Cool, anything on the Mig-29s in SP4, and the WCMD i sent back to you yesterday?
Phew, have'nt worked on the Fulcrums for quite a while, maybe I should finish them one day :o
Got to talk to Basil about a new texture-set, mine was'nt that great IMO.

Do you want me to update the website with your improved WCMD model?

ccc, nice modeling. Can I send you the SA-12 launcher in it's current form? I simply can't find the time and the nerve to finish this thing. How about you? :D :D :D
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send me SA12. Actually i give both SA12 another try these day, no success, then threw at Quake again :D
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Spike, yes on the WCMD, no new screens on my end though, so you'll have to get some with OGL again i guess.
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A rare type of AEW..
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thanx Quake for fixing look-thru bugs!
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PROGRESS OF GROUND VEHICLE MODELING..

green tag= done.

pic size 149k, from LOMAC screenshot.
http://home.pchome.com.tw/star/ccc1tw/g ... cles_b.jpg

If possible, please help identify some "obscure" vehicles.
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[quote]quote:Originally posted by ccc:
send me SA12. Actually i give both SA12 another try these day, no success, then threw at Quake again :( :( :( :( :( :(
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ccc,

Do you know if anyone is working on this plane?

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[quote]quote:Originally posted by Quake:

:)
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quote:Originally posted by PumpyHead:
ccc,

Do you know if anyone is working on this plane?
-PumpyHead
nope. its a farmer right?

long time ago Spike did minor upgrade on MPS model. no progress told in past months.
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Hi ccc, here's the SA-10 model. I have also included Mike Rivers' SA-12b. Don't know, if you can use it too.

Get it here

I have added the Mig-31 to the download-area of my web-page. Get it here

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Oops, of course it's the SA-12 model. Sorry bout' that. ;)
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Doh! Wrong filename. :o

This link should work:

SA-12_launcher.zip
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thanx Spike - so i learned my splitting error.

i'll borrow your SA12a nodetree structure for SA12b. i prefer missile tube in fixed up position, and get radar DOFed.

btw, nice foxhound. look forward to floggers.
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OMG, that was fast. Models and textures look great, good work. I bet, this toy will give us a hard time.
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Spike, i didn't use yours and Mike's lods - yet i took parts of your texture.

The lods are newly converted by Quake, i did some polishing job and got their radar disc DOFed, add some rough skins.

The complete battery is composed of-

9M82 SA-12b GIANT missile - done.
9M83 SA-12a GLADIATOR missile - done.
9A82 SA-12b GIANT TELAR - done.
9A93 SA-12a GLADIATOR TELAR - done.
9A84 GIANT Launcher/Loader Vehicle (LLV) - done.
9A85 GLADIATOR Launcher/Loader Vehicle (LLV) - done.
9S15 BILL BOARD Surveillance Radar system - done.
9S19 HIGH SCREEN Sector Radar system - done.
9S32 GRILL PAN Guidance Radar system -?? no pic.
9S457 Command Station - done.

PS- the first pic is Snow drift system for gadfly/grizzly battery.
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thanx, the whole components of SA12A/B system is done.

the missing parts left are some warning radar types like 40V6M? and 9S32.. yet need better pics.

green dots updated. http://home.pchome.com.tw/star/ccc1tw/g ... cles_b.jpg
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Just to let you know, this project is still alive. This must be the oldest model around, ranging back to ccc's nose-mod, back in 2001. I guess, it's time to finish the job. ;)

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Forgot to mention, that there are some new goodies on my website. Namely some improved AA-9 and AA-10 models.

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quote:Originally posted by PumpyHead:
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wow, pic updated, nice progress!!
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Awesome! really really truely awesome! I love MiG-19s :)
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Pumpy, will you DOF that canopy?

The sliding type. may use a regular DOF, pivot at tens' feet above canopy, then 2-3 degree of canopy open anlge may provide a relatively smooth "sliding". just my 2c.
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quote:Originally posted by ccc:
Pumpy, will you DOF that canopy?
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What, you think I would hazard posting on this forum knowing you are here without being prepared? :D :D

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If you want a perfect sliding canopy, it can be done with 4 DOFS.
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<--A--B--C
At locations A & C, there is 1 DOF, both rotate the same direction.

At location B, there are 2 DOFs, both rotate the opposite of A & C.

The distance between A & C is how far the thing will slide, assuming the DOFs rotate 90 degrees.

When you rotate the DOFs here is what happens:
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<--A--B--C


       B
      / \
  <--A   C


         B
         | 
      <--A  (A & C are now in the same spot.
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quote:Originally posted by mrivers:
If you want a perfect sliding canopy, it can be done with 4 DOFS.

code:

Code: Select all

<--A--B--C
At locations A & C, there is 1 DOF, both rotate the same direction.

At location B, there are 2 DOFs, both rotate the opposite of A & C.

The distance between A & C is how far the thing will slide, assuming the DOFs rotate 90 degrees.

When you rotate the DOFs here is what happens:
code:

Code: Select all

<--A--B--C


       B
      / \
  <--A   C


         B
         | 
      <--A  (A & C are now in the same spot.
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Hi Mike,

Yes, I ended up using 3 dof's to get the sliding effect. Similar to what I used to get the extending canopy pole on the F-16B models.

The Mig-19 further complicates things because of the flip-up action of the rear of the canopy. The big problem I usually find is getting the one DOF angle to work with all the movements I need.

Plus I had to use 6 nested DOF's to get enough travel on the pitot tube.


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You guys amaze me! That is too freakin cool! :D
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cool pic Pumpy!

multi-DOFs is truely too much for me..
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[quote]quote:Originally posted by ccc:
cool pic Pumpy!

multi-DOFs is truely too much for me..
:D

Over at FW's they've been asking for emergency vehicles, when are we going to see them? ;)

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Quick and dirty paste of photo onto bmp.

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Outstanding that MiG - and then the sliding cockpit! Thank you for all your work, I just enjoyed opening the F-16 cockpit for the first time (SP4beta)
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Finally "the most present red plane" in Falcon has its new GREAT model!!
Great Pumpy!
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quote:Originally posted by PumpyHead:
Quick and dirty paste of photo onto bmp.

-PumpyHead
Good looking model, as usual. :cool:
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Big Badaboom :D :D :D

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quote:Originally posted by Spike:
Big Badaboom :D :D :D
he he he..we need some cargo flights tasked to delivery this baby!

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