ODS SP2 internal beta

KBMIL · Post by **KBMIL** » 2002-03-09 22:52:00

my first crashlog, i think ODS related (did not have ctd before with 20302) on exit, after being shot down by sa-2

FALCONSP_20302.EXE caused a EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION in module FALCONSP_20302.EXE at 0167:0048FD2F
Exception handler called in SimLoop Thread.
Read from location ffffffff caused an access violation.
Code: 39 4e 08 89 4d fc 89 4d ec 0f 8e ac 00 00 00 89
Stack dump:
Stack: 0167:0048FD2F (0x00000001 0x048F4860 0x0442F600 0x00000000) FALCONSP_20302.EXE
Stack: 0167:0048345A (0x048F4860 0x048E8220 0x00000001 0x048F4860) FALCONSP_20302.EXE
Stack: 0167:0049C421 (0x01C17D80 0x00000000 0x05D4C450 0x00341889) FALCONSP_20302.EXE
Stack: 0167:0042C0C5 (0x00000000 0x05D4C450 0x01989360 0x0046A330) FALCONSP_20302.EXE
Stack: 0167:0046AB12 (0x01F7BD67 0x005BF73E 0x00341889 0x00000000) FALCONSP_20302.EXE
EAX=000000B4 EBX=000000B4 ECX=00000000 EDX=0000001C ESI=00000000
EDI=048F4820 EBP=0442F4F4 ESP=0442F4D0 EIP=0048FD2F FLG=00010246
CS=0167 DS=016F SS=016F ES=016F FS=36BF GS=0000
Error occurred at 3/9/2002 16:52:38.
C:\MICROPROSE\FALCON4\FALCONSP_20302.EXE, run by Joeri.
1 processor(s), type 586.
448 MBytes physical memory.
OS: 4.10 build 67766446 platform 1 A
Version: Falcon 4.0 - Version 1.12.1.20302
Card: DXContext::Init - DriverInfo - "NVDD32.DLL" - "NVIDIA GeForce2 GTS/GeForce2 Pro", Vendor: 4318, Device: 336, SubSys: -2010049438, Rev: 164, Product: 4, Version: 13, SubVersion: 1, Build: 1241

Game is Tactical Engagement type Local

second one, 4th or 5th pie with joo TE
(tought i had hotfix installed, but will try again )

FALCONSP_20302.EXE caused a EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION in module FALCONSP_20302.EXE at 0167:0048FD2F
Exception handler called in SimLoop Thread.
Read from location ffffffff caused an access violation.
Code: 39 4e 08 89 4d fc 89 4d ec 0f 8e ac 00 00 00 89
Stack dump:
Stack: 0167:0048FD2F (0x00000001 0x048F4860 0x0442F600 0x00000000) FALCONSP_20302.EXE
Stack: 0167:0048345A (0x048F4860 0x048E8220 0x00000001 0x048F4860) FALCONSP_20302.EXE
Stack: 0167:0049C421 (0x01C17D80 0x00000000 0x05D4C450 0x00341889) FALCONSP_20302.EXE
Stack: 0167:0042C0C5 (0x00000000 0x05D4C450 0x01989360 0x0046A330) FALCONSP_20302.EXE
Stack: 0167:0046AB12 (0x01F7BD67 0x005BF73E 0x00341889 0x00000000) FALCONSP_20302.EXE
EAX=000000B4 EBX=000000B4 ECX=00000000 EDX=0000001C ESI=00000000
EDI=048F4820 EBP=0442F4F4 ESP=0442F4D0 EIP=0048FD2F FLG=00010246
CS=0167 DS=016F SS=016F ES=016F FS=36BF GS=0000
Error occurred at 3/9/2002 16:52:38.
C:\MICROPROSE\FALCON4\FALCONSP_20302.EXE, run by Joeri.
1 processor(s), type 586.
448 MBytes physical memory.
OS: 4.10 build 67766446 platform 1 A
Version: Falcon 4.0 - Version 1.12.1.20302
Card: DXContext::Init - DriverInfo - "NVDD32.DLL" - "NVIDIA GeForce2 GTS/GeForce2 Pro", Vendor: 4318, Device: 336, SubSys: -2010049438, Rev: 164, Product: 4, Version: 13, SubVersion: 1, Build: 1241

Game is Tactical Engagement type Local

FAngs32 · Post by **FAngs32** » 2002-03-09 22:53:00

>> Does this work ok in Korea?

Yup... Radar Threat-Circles work fine in KTO

But try to activate them in DS and you CTD.

Mike S.

Spyder · Post by **Spyder** » 2002-03-09 22:56:00

Problem on Theater switcher seems to be solved. You need an uncommented korea.tdf file. Get it from F4SP Yahoo-groups, message# 18130.

Cheers
T. "Spyder" Handel

KBMIL · Post by **KBMIL** » 2002-03-10 12:53:00

Anyone else have the terrible shaking while taxiing

?

build 20302

greets Mil

87th_striker · Post by **87th_striker** » 2002-03-10 14:48:00

Get a crash when I try to look at cockpit map. Hotfix applied, SP2, no cockpit maps applied. Any way around ?

Spyder · Post by **Spyder** » 2002-03-10 14:58:00

Hi,

I have just solved the F4Patch issue. (See message posted March 09, 2002 07:31 PM in this threat).

Here is what I did:
Copy "theater.lst" from Falcon4.0 main folder to F4Patch\FalconSP folder
Move "DesStorm" folder from Campaign-folder to Falcon 4.0 main folder.
Change "desstorm.tdf" file in terrdata\theaterdefinition that it points to the new location if "DesStorm" folder:
# Where the campaign directory is
campaigndir desstorm

Now when you start F4Patch, FalconSP and Realism data patch show up as applied.

I still have no glue why F4Patch is refering to some file in the Campaign\Desstorm folder.

Cheers
T. "Spyder" Handel

prelude · Post by **prelude** » 2002-03-10 15:44:00

quote:Originally posted by 87th_striker:
Get a crash when I try to look at cockpit map. Hotfix applied, SP2, no cockpit maps applied. Any way around ?

I have the same problem is there anything that can be done to fix this?? also in the create a mission UI when you look at the objects on the map such as airports installtions..etc..etc.. they appear in wrong place incirclik AB appears on the Red Sea among other things such as that anything i can do to fix it???

PMC Youtube channel · Post by **Snake Man** » 2002-03-10 20:12:00

quote:Originally posted by 87th_striker:
Get a crash when I try to look at cockpit map. Hotfix applied, SP2, no cockpit maps applied. Any way around ?

I think it was SP2 where the kneemap fix was not included. It works on SP2a builds.

You'll just have to wait and not look kneemap.

PMC TFW
Snake Man

PMC Youtube channel · Post by **Snake Man** » 2002-03-10 20:14:00

quote:Originally posted by prelude:
the same problem is there anything that can be done to fix this??

No, unless you get SP2a build from somewhere

quote:incirclik AB appears on the Red Sea among other things

Can you post a screenshot of that?

PMC TFW
Snake Man

87th_striker · Post by **87th_striker** » 2002-03-10 20:50:00

Kharg Island is not there. Runway in the sea.

prelude · Post by **prelude** » 2002-03-10 21:50:00

Does anyone know where I can get the SP2a at?

Also in regards to my last post with the objects being out of place, i was able to fix it but i had to run the EF4PT... 3 times for it to work right after reinstalling the whole falcon system. Weird huh?

Spyder · Post by **Spyder** » 2002-03-10 22:50:00

quote:Originally posted by prelude:
Does anyone know where I can get the SP2a at?

Hi,

Join the F4UT. GotoYahoo-groups , simple.

Cheers
T. "Spyder" Handel

PMC Youtube channel · Post by **Snake Man** » 2002-03-10 22:57:00

quote:Originally posted by 87th_striker:
Kharg Island is not there. Runway in the sea.

Thanks, I believe this was the first bug report that lead into fix

Khark island runway should be now on land.

PMC TFW
Snake Man

Spyder · Post by **Spyder** » 2002-03-10 23:38:00

Hi,

I had a black horizon when I first installed ODS. After running it 3 times, the black horizon was gone.
I used to fly with texture slider at 4. Setting it to 5, and the black horizon was gone even after the first install.

Cheers
T. "Spyder" Handel

prelude · Post by **prelude** » 2002-03-11 00:03:00

Is there any word yet about how long it will be before the full finished version of ods-sp2 will be out??

Widowmaker · Post by **Widowmaker** » 2002-03-11 00:35:00

quote:Originally posted by Spyder:
Hi,

I had a black horizon when I first installed ODS. After running it 3 times, the black horizon was gone.
I used to fly with texture slider at 4. Setting it to 5, and the black horizon was gone even after the first install.

Cheers
T. "Spyder" Handel

Disable 'Allow 3DNow, ISSE'
in Setup-Graphics-Advanced

should work

Widmak

Spyder · Post by **Spyder** » 2002-03-11 01:18:00

quote:Originally posted by Widowmaker:

Disable 'Allow 3DNow, ISSE'
in Setup-Graphics-Advanced

should work

Widmak

Hi Widmak,

I had this feature never enabled. It slows my machine to a Falcon-slideshow.

But thanks netherdeless.

Cheers
T. "Spyder" Handel

prelude · Post by **prelude** » 2002-03-11 02:01:00

I would be willing to do any help with the tiling that is needed. :p

PMC Youtube channel · Post by **Snake Man** » 2002-03-11 07:15:00

quote:Originally posted by prelude:
how long it will be before the full finished version of ods-sp2 will be out??

Difficult to say, but I say this... last night I finished the exe installer, works nicely thanks to Dr. Fred Balding.

PMC TFW
Snake Man

Spyder · Post by **Spyder** » 2002-03-11 17:35:00

Hi,

Don't know if a picture for the Theater switcher is still needed. Here's is the one I made for my install:

Cheers
T. "Spyder" Handel

Ender Wiggin · Post by **Ender Wiggin** » 2002-03-11 18:35:00

looks good!

Schumi · Post by **Schumi** » 2002-03-12 23:28:00

quote:Originally posted by Snake Man:
Theater switching is not complete in the latest build as far as I know. When you switch back to korea, it does not totally update/read the files... you need to exit falcon to get korea fully selected.

Yeah - that's only a datafile issues in the korea.tdf file...

Only problem that remains is a switching of the sounds folder - the sound effects can be switched, but switching the talkfile is not possible - the new voices can't be heard - however I'll try to figure out why that happens tomorrow.

Schumi · Post by **Schumi** » 2002-03-12 23:37:00

quote:Originally posted by Snake Man:
Me too, thats something the coders/Joel need to explain to us. I'm not familiar with SP2 + F4Patch so far.

Actually I rarely use F4Patch now with SP2/SP2a betas.

PMC TFW
Snake Man

The problem is that the SP2 and current F4P Versions still use the F4PCampaign plugin which changes a file in all subfolders of Falcon4\Campaign.

This was necessary pre-SP2 to have the same files in all subfolders, so when switching with F4Patch (save->temp, balkans->save, temp->balkans and back...) the RealismPatch and others would still be shown applied. As we don't switch folders anymore, this plugin is also not needed anymore.

Later,
Manfred

PMC Youtube channel · Post by **Snake Man** » 2002-03-13 00:44:00

Hi Schumi

There seems to be multiplayer bug in ODS beta. When getting into "Receiving Units" part it just hungs there, at least the client does that.

Earlier we had hung or was it CTD on the Receiving Objects part, but now its units. Could it be that my ground units/squadrons are somehow wrong?

PMC TFW
Snake Man

Ender Wiggin · Post by **Ender Wiggin** » 2002-03-13 05:36:00

After i installed build 20310 and reran the terrain installer and used 5 it was fine again. Though i didnt get the same UI screen this time. It said F4ME instead of the brown edge and the F-16. (i think its because i was using 800x600 instead of the Hi-Res UI).

BelgianTiger_5 · Post by **BelgianTiger_5** » 2002-03-13 21:11:00

when I installed 20310 and i changed theaters I highlight desert storm and press ok but ctd installed it and reinstalled it but no go .
BT_5

87th_striker · Post by **87th_striker** » 2002-03-13 21:23:00

Snake Man !

The thing you report as a bug could be that you run different versions of builds, not compatible, or that someone pooints to the wrong exe.

PMC Youtube channel · Post by **Snake Man** » 2002-03-14 00:55:00

quote:Originally posted by Ender Wiggin:
It said F4ME instead of the brown edge and the F-16. (i think its because i was using 800x600 instead of the Hi-Res UI).

Yeah ODS supports only 1024 UI size.

PMC TFW
Snake Man

PMC Youtube channel · Post by **Snake Man** » 2002-03-14 00:59:00

quote:Originally posted by BelgianTiger_5:
I highlight desert storm and press ok but ctd installed it and reinstalled it but no go

Did you rebuild the terrain with eF4PTinstall?

PMC TFW
Snake Man

BelgianTiger_5 · Post by **BelgianTiger_5** » 2002-03-14 17:31:00

i made a compeltely fresh install and performed the ef4Pinstall by the mail ,but no go ;-((, even read every prob on the forum here wishing there is a solution but............
BT_5

PMC Youtube channel · Post by **Snake Man** » 2002-03-14 17:56:00

quote:Originally posted by BelgianTiger_5:
i made a compeltely fresh install and performed the ef4Pinstall by the mail ,but no go ;-((,

List the files in your terrdata\DesStorm\terrain and terrdata\DesStorm\texture directories with filenames + sizes.

PMC TFW
Snake Man

BelgianTiger_5 · Post by **BelgianTiger_5** » 2002-03-14 19:15:00

Ask me to test anything and give feedback,lol, but that's a little too technical for me

)
can u explain this pls ,I'm always willing to learn.
Regards,
BT_5

PMC Youtube channel · Post by **Snake Man** » 2002-03-14 19:31:00

quote:Originally posted by BelgianTiger_5:
can u explain this pls

Open MS-DOS box in your windows, go to your falcon directory terrdata\desstorm\terrain and write DIR and press enter.

Other option is to open windows explorer and "surf" into the falcon directory terrdata\desstorm\terrain and to see the file sizes in that directory.

What I'm asking that if any of those files are 0 bytes or so, then you got a problem.

PMC TFW
Snake Man

Ender Wiggin · Post by **Ender Wiggin** » 2002-03-18 06:34:00

Status? i havent heard anything from here lately. Just makin sure everyone's alive

PMC Youtube channel · Post by **Snake Man** » 2002-03-18 10:18:00

I'm alive at least.

Been playing with the latest builds and the campaign here. It has decent activity so far.

The new CATE processed terrain has better desert type quality than before, not so foggy anymore.

CATE is also currently chewing those airbase backgrounds and if everything works well, we have ALL (all goddamn 320 of them) airbases of ODS background tiled and leveled. Meaning they are not showing that ugly "stairs effect" anymore.

JSTARS window is now working on the exe and the map has been updated to reflect that.

Multiplayer still gets hung on "Receiving Units" part and Threat Circles -> Radar will get you a CTD.

Oh and the current BETA is taken offline and new installer is ready. Still few more nice goodies to add there and then we have another 65mb download in ahead of us

PMC TFW
Snake Man

Ender Wiggin · Post by **Ender Wiggin** » 2002-03-18 18:37:00

Thanks for the heads up

Alberto · Post by **Alberto** » 2002-03-18 21:53:00

Hi.
I´m building some TE´s for ODS-128. I would like you post here some suggestions about the training missions and TE´s. For example.. in which airbase may I place the training ( flat landscape or mountains... ) and also, some info about the 1991 Desert Storm missions, and if you want create some TE´s yourself, send me the missions to albertingm@wanadoo.es later, i will send all of them to Snakeman

Saludos!

PMC Youtube channel · Post by **Snake Man** » 2002-03-19 22:52:00

ODS latest build has been compiled to single exe installshield installer.

Beta testers are emailed about the download.

Instructions: click the exe and click few next buttons, its easy as that.

Changes in this BETA v0.2 preview 4
- All airbases background tiled & leveled.
- JSTARS map.

known "bugs" in this release
- TACAN channels default korean.
- ATC voices default korean.
- tigris river is not completely tiled.
- Iran, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Israel, Egypt is not completely tiled.
- Theat Circles -> Radar high/low alt produces CTD.
- Multiplayer hungs on "Receiving Units".

Best results, run the latest SP2a build.

If anyone is interested of beta testing, email to nospam and request to be part of the internal beta team.

PMC TFW
Snake Man

PMC Youtube channel · Post by **Snake Man** » 2002-03-19 23:26:00

Sorry forgot to mention!

Download size 61mb

If you do not like to try beta stage software, please do not download this piece of crap

But if you choose to go for it, I'm very eager to hear your comments on anything you find, be it good or bad.

PMC TFW
Snake Man

Spyder · Post by **Spyder** » 2002-03-19 23:28:00

Hi,

Downloading at the moment. But won't be able to test until weekend, cause study and SP2a have the higher priorities.

Cheers
T. "Spyder" Handel