quote:Originally posted by 87th_striker: Tazz !
Did you miss the F-15 S ? Along with the I and K, they are the most advanced F-15 exported, with perhaps the F-15K being the most advanced.
No I didn't forget the F-15S of 92 and 55 Squadron but I didn't think these were in the Sp3 database and therefor didn't mention them in the ORBAT.
Sounds logical right? Well in fact I DID forgot about these :p
rgr - when the public beta is out then ther can be worked on it. Rob may also get into campaigns so u all best check in here regularly for coordination when necessary
quote:Originally posted by Widowmaker: yeah objectsdir is out >>>>>>>>>>>>
Skinpatches should not at all be in Theaterinstaller, other groups/persons should compile a Skinpack for ODS and release/update it seperate rom the theaterinstaller.
/widmak
Anyone know if there is something new in "Skins" available yet for ODS?
And the question asked of Basil (by Kinggeorge IIRC, couple weeks ago), re ODS skins changing the Korea ones?
- Rob
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quote:Originally posted by kinggeorge: rgr - but is it possible to make a skinpak that applies skins only for ods without changing anything in the default korea then?
:doh: July 25th, not a couple weeks ago ...
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Like I said before, I have some unused space in the US that I can host a PRIVATE not PUBLIC Beta on (FTP only PLZ!) with 10 Gig allowable transfer / month so that would allow me to distribute to about 30 PRIVATE TESTERS via FTP (leave 2.5 Gig bandwidth spare for "unknowns") before closing the gate.
Let me know - Account is already setup.
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Sounds good Rob i'll give you the public beta when i have it later on tonite - i was thinking about you as distribution "platform" to other hosts and sqadrons and your friends (summa sumarum 30ppl as you said...) Maybe you leave an email here for any people wanting to contact you. All others may simply join irc (see contact page) or irc on quakenet, channel #semper and query [Semper]Sniper. I have lots of bandwidth for dcc file send
Hopefully terrapin will also host it asap for his special sponsors (give the size..)
Till evening
Georg
PS: Dont ask for it until theres a message here that it is gone public
Hey, its everything to be excited about, another campaign, and all. Now, can this beta be given out to others, sorta as a public beta, like if i were to say, hey guys check this out, will that work?
And you all get a big "THANK YOU" from me as well. I can remember when you guys first started ODS, the rush @ that time to get it ... Just to be a Beta Tester in THOSE days
Excellent work!
Kind regards - Rob
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quote:Originally posted by kinggeorge: rgr - when the public beta is out then ther can be worked on it. Rob may also get into campaigns so u all best check in here regularly for coordination when necessary
OK, making a start. I mean trying to find out the internals, how things work instead of just flying around enjoying myself. Lot's of reading, "Tacediting" ahead ...
Dumb Question #1:
@Snake Man: did you use TCL scripting to create the Campaigns? If yes, is the TCL SRC available (like it is with the "new" PMC Korea Campaigns) somewhere?
Yeah, I know "ODS 512 Camps are the IP of who gives a US$" LOL ...
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Two ways to make campaigns, one using TCL scripts which create campaigns very quickly, or by hand (a la Panama) which make them rock solid.
I've done two now for Panama, both are proving to be rock solid. If you're up for it (read as - nuts), I'll send my "Long Way Round" tutorial... (will take a day or two to compile of course, I didn't expect to ever find another nutter around here...)
Thanks for the reply. Don't know yet about me being "nuts" or not, ask me in a months time ... Just decided (OK, Kinggeorge provided some good encouragement you can send your "Tutorial" to me at RobC@parks-sa.co.za - and anything else you might want to chat about.
By the way PANAMA is my favourite "small" Theater. Never use Korea anymore (except to make sure base SP3 runs after doing the Falcon "Dance".) Thanks for creating it for us
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quote:Originally posted by GISbyRob/RobC_F4: did you use TCL scripting to create the Campaigns?
Yes of course.
quote:is the TCL SRC available (like it is with the "new" PMC Korea Campaigns) somewhere?
No but I'll pack up the scripts and upload them. Please remind me again if the download link doesn't appear soon.
quote:Yeah, I know "ODS 512 Camps are the IP of who gives a US$" LOL ...
Well I do hope that nobody edits the existing campaigns and RE-RELEASE them because it just adds the confusion. Everyone is free and encouraged to do new "Theaters" for ODS Theater (the theaterdefinition tdf file for Theater UI selection) and therefore three campaigns to each newly added "theater".
Can I describe it any way more difficult?
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quote:Originally posted by Malcolm: Two ways to make campaigns, one using TCL scripts which create campaigns very quickly, or by hand (a la Panama) which make them rock solid.
So you suggest that TCL scripts create somehow less stable running campaigns?
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They are a mess, only the OIF desstorm3 dirs stuff uses the new MakeSquad that Codec was so kind and created for me to easily create squadrons. Others use the more lamer copy-paste method but that creates the correct aircraft squadron numbers.
Other than that it should be quite familiar with user whos taken a look at PMC Korean Campaign's TCL's.
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quote:Originally posted by Snake Man: Well I do hope that nobody edits the existing campaigns and RE-RELEASE them because it just adds the confusion. Everyone is free and encouraged to do new "Theaters" for ODS Theater (the theaterdefinition tdf file for Theater UI selection) and therefore three campaigns to each newly added "theater".
Can I describe it any way more difficult?
Thanks - no need to worry about me undoing your "IP" People who do that are "low lifes" (unfortunately the world is full of them)
I just want to get into the internals of all this - new challenge. Also tired of all the F4UT vs FF vs RestOfTheWorld vs TheSourceCodeIsMyIP stuff. Maybe, with all your (PMC) and Malcolm's help I will be able to make somthing new that folk can use. Find some "gotchas". But I have to get my 50 year old brain in gear again ...
Thanks for sharing the Scripts
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quote:Originally posted by Snake Man: So you suggest that TCL scripts create somehow less stable running campaigns?
No, not at all. I feel when using the scripts all of a sudden I have loads of brigades and battallions I have to place, check orders, objectives, etc etc and it gets very difficult keeping track of whats done, not done, etc. This (for me anyway) is an easy way to let errors appear.
Doing it manually, I know for sure each and every time all orders and objectives, etc are exactly as I wanted them.
In no way am I inferring the TCL scripts are no good... although I think I might have... for which I apologise!
OK guys did a flat assed dummy install just fresh out of the box so to say or (dirty Install), I used my SP3/FF Install as base of Install, extraction was simple, Patch app went well theater build was fine, I created TE using F/A-18D default weapons load w 1 external tank, had an excellent flight, No defects whatsoever, except that I could NOT use "Blue Skies" as default, searched and searched all is as it should be, did second install (Default Install (Clean)) ALL WAS WELL DellP4,2gig, 105gigHD,1024DDR................great package guys, first campaign flight was a shocker... smoked by 6 Iranian F-14A's shame on me............
quote:Originally posted by swampy11: KG-
Could you supply a link to the updated version as I would like to reference it in "The Total Install", if that would be OK?
`swamp
What kind of link
theres no updated version of this beta... just the second version of a small installation exe
fix for "Dirty Install" w/FF is to re-install todtable.dat and, tod.1st.panther into ODS weather file, and viola "blue skies, nothing but blue skies from now on...... posted @ FF, also just would like to know "IF" this is the beta, how ya gonna top this this is friggin "Sierra Hotel"
quote:Originally posted by swampy11: KG-
Could you supply a link to the updated version as I would like to reference it in "The Total Install", if that would be OK?
`swamp
It is needed for people that have f4patch crash when using the ActivationPatch provided in the ODS_V0.512 package.
thnx BT5 (Pacman) and BT6 for reporting and help testing to fix this bug.
[quote]quote:Originally posted by DDeuce: fix for "Dirty Install" w/FF is to re-install todtable.dat and, tod.1st.panther into ODS weather file, and viola "blue skies, nothing but blue skies from now on...... posted @ FF, also just would like to know "IF" this is the beta, how ya gonna top this this is friggin "Sierra Hotel"
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