New tiles for vietnam

Com_gp · Post by **Com_gp** » 2001-02-17 19:22:00

Ok, send the screenshoot again, and if anyone knows where to find good photos of the vietnam terrain, please, post them.
If this are gonna be vietnam tiles or not is not sure, but this could be the begining.

ComGP

Post by **Snake Man** » 2001-02-18 08:55:00

How about some jungle tiles, I dont know how would (if any) jungle be differend from forest. Also the rice paddies...

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Com_gp · Post by **Com_gp** » 2001-02-18 15:10:00

Hey, snake_man, i still dont know pretty sure how am i gonna do the jungle, dont have to many photos, i have done a very very template of the rice padies, here i send two more pics of this.

The dark blue lines at the sea are wrong, i think that i will make the threes smaller and i will sarpen the tiles a little bit, still have a lot of work.

ComGP

Post by **Snake Man** » 2001-02-18 17:43:00

Is it just me, or are those images very dark, almost like taken at night?

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Com_gp · Post by **Com_gp** » 2001-02-18 19:05:00

yeah, i though the same, still looking for the right pallete for all the tiles, if i had a good sat pic of vnam...

ccc · Post by **ccc** » 2001-02-19 03:50:00

ya, too dark.
i'll try to find some pic of rice paddies.

costline?

http://www.geocities.com//mariacchi2001 ... AF_095.jpg

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Com_gp · Post by **Com_gp** » 2001-02-19 10:46:00

Thanks ccc, i probably will check the water also, not so dark blue and more green, i have found a couple of good photos of nalpan at low altitude in the farmland, the quality of the photos is not to good but i think i ll be able to figure out how the farmland is exactly.

ComGP

Com_gp · Post by **Com_gp** » 2001-02-19 19:21:00

Im a little stupid, i reworked all the tiles and when i finished them i noticed that they were to dark because the mision i was flying was at 8:00 AM, this other screenshoot has been taken in instant action at 12:00.
The tiles are 26 by now, 1 water tile, 1 farm tile, 24 coast tiles, have to do millions of farm tiles, anyways...

ComGP

ccc · Post by **ccc** » 2001-02-19 23:15:00

wow! GREAT shore !!!!

Post by **Snake Man** » 2001-02-20 00:07:00

Great shore indeed, but what I really think is cool are those black spots, they are just what the desert terrain needs.

How many spots do you got on one tile?

check out this example what I mean:

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Com_gp · Post by **Com_gp** » 2001-02-20 17:29:00

Hey, snake_man, here is the tile with the black spots, whenever i was creating this tiles i wanted to include trees in them, the black spots are suposed to be that, i have to make the smaller and darker...

ComGP

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brewskie · Post by **brewskie** » 2001-02-20 23:37:00

Is it me or are they a little grainy?
snakeman, since we are so busy with nam, making it better all the time, I didn't want to ask you, but it would be cool in the future to make Top Gun ACM school at NAS Fallon or mirimar. Mirimar closed in 1997.

Merlin made a F-14 cockpit. I'm going to try it once i get some time.Nice skin collection over at F4C.

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ccc · Post by **ccc** » 2001-02-21 01:26:00

quote:Originally posted by brewskie:

Merlin made a F-14 cockpit. I'm going to try it once i get some time.Nice skin collection over at F4C.
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1.topgun theater sounds great, but we need A4!!
2.ya, Merlin's tomcat pit is great...wierd i got some bluse blocks on my machine while runing it? using f4p3.2 pit mod.
Merlin could be too busy on F4C..or we could have an additional WSO view?(like that in B1 pit)

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Post by **Snake Man** » 2001-02-21 04:46:00

quote:Originally posted by brewskie:
Top Gun ACM school at NAS Fallon or mirimar. Mirimar closed in 1997.

Can you give me the lat/long coordinates of the 10 by 10 degree area which would be best used to Mirimar (Miramar?) school terrain?

If it dont fit to 10by10, then give 20by20

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brewskie · Post by **brewskie** » 2001-02-21 12:48:00

sorry thats Miramar,
sure i get them to you by lunch time.
Just looking at the map, with 10x10
you could include almost all the best training centers.
1. Nellis USAF north of Las Vegas,Nevada
2. China lake naval weapons center
3. Fallon the new Top Gun school for Navy
which range is just east of Reno,Nevada.
Nevada is an excellent training area, no people,wide open desert.

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ccc · Post by **ccc** » 2001-02-21 12:51:00

overlap with Nevada theater?

Com_gp · Post by **Com_gp** » 2001-02-21 17:13:00

Hey, im doing the nevada theatre, with nellis airbase, i think that the miramar topgun school is not included in my map, if you want as i havent started to tile seriusly yet (still making the tiles) i can download the map to include miramar and nellis and everything, instead of arizona, that miramar topgun is a great idea, i just was gonna do it on Red flag but now...
Instead of the A4 skyhawk we could use the f5's and the mig 21.
ComGP

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brewskie · Post by **brewskie** » 2001-02-21 17:39:00

I don't read every thread so i don't
know what other people are doing,but i
just checked and see that com_gp is doing this area. Well, work it out with snakeman.
Anyway
Miramar NAS a few miles east of La Jolla San Diego, the base itself is about 8 miles wide and 4 miles long(South to North). This is an approx 32deg 53' lat and 117deg 05'long. However the new school at Fallon,is more west at 119 deg.

The western edge of USAF's Nellis is at 117. So if you wanted Miramar but didn't want Los Angeles i would go with 117deg 30' as my most western edge.
32 to 42 for lat.
If you think you can do Calf. go for it dude.
That theater could doulbe as a very real dreaded China invasion. That would be Las Vegas at 115
extending to 125 west.

Com_gp · Post by **Com_gp** » 2001-02-21 18:32:00

hey, the only problem now is that im working with another guy, snake122 and he was doing the object placement, so i suposse he will have to start again, mmmmh, i still dont know what im gonna do, anyways my theatre is going really slow in the last days, i have been doing other things for Falcon, right now im not really sure of what am i gonna do, i will see
ComGP

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Tahiti Bob · Post by **Tahiti Bob** » 2001-02-21 18:35:00

I went to Vietnam last summer. I Took a lot of pictures of either north and south VN: terrains, objects (bunkers, buildings)... Well I'm at work now (I don't work too hard, as you can see), so I can't send pictures from here. I'll do it as soon as possible if it can help.
I think it could be great to create specific tiles for the water of the northern rivers, which is kind of reddish brown (that's why the Red River is called so). I think this is an important way to create a "Vietnam touch".

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Post by **Snake Man** » 2001-02-21 18:53:00

quote:Originally posted by Tahiti Bob:
I went to Vietnam last summer. I Took a lot of pictures of either north and south VN: terrains, objects (bunkers, buildings)...

If you can upload the photos to your web server and post them here, it would be very nice indeed.

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Snake Man

Com_gp · Post by **Com_gp** » 2001-02-21 18:57:00

quote:Originally posted by Tahiti Bob:
Well I'm at work now (I don't work too hard, as you can see)

Cool, just like me, hey, i would be very pleased if you send me that pics, since all ive found on the internet is not what i wanted, also tell me what do you think of the screenshoots and tell me everything that is wrong in them, hey my email is med006129@nacom.es , Thanks a lot
ComGP

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TheSilkMan · Post by **TheSilkMan** » 2001-02-23 04:05:00

Snake, I just sent you a jungle tile via email. We need this in the theater bad.

Post by **Snake Man** » 2001-02-23 13:54:00

Now we only need the river and transition tiles from this jungle tile.

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Com_gp · Post by **Com_gp** » 2001-02-23 20:01:00

Hey, snake, could i use that tile?, im doing jungle tiles and thats hell of good.
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Post by **Snake Man** » 2001-02-24 02:24:00

quote:Originally posted by Com_gp:
Hey, snake, could i use that tile?, im doing jungle tiles and thats hell of good.

Sure. I'd be happy to receive some new tiles from that template.

I'd need the default set for "forest" transitions and then rivers. basically the sets of HFORR22* and HFORR20* - if you know what I mean.

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TheSilkMan · Post by **TheSilkMan** » 2001-02-24 05:42:00

Snake, I'd be interested in finding out how the jungle tile works out for you, does it look good on the landscape in the sim?

JimG · Post by **JimG** » 2001-02-24 14:21:00

quote:Originally posted by Snake_Man:

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Hey Snake, that looks like a close-up of a head of broccoli.

Com_gp · Post by **Com_gp** » 2001-02-25 21:50:00

Hey, i have worked on the tiles and i send two pics, dont have time, just say that the low flight sensation is hell of cool, not like high flight sensation...
try to see them, if you cant just copy paste the address in a new window

http://www.geocities.com/com_gp1/screen ... _39_14.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/com_gp1/screen ... _40_44.jpg

ComGP

TheSilkMan · Post by **TheSilkMan** » 2001-02-25 22:11:00

Site says not available.

TheSilkMan · Post by **TheSilkMan** » 2001-02-25 22:14:00

This is what I get after trying the home page:

com_gp1's Home Page

I haven't started building my site yet. Please check back soon!

Post by **Snake Man** » 2001-02-25 23:56:00

quote:Originally posted by Com_gp:
i have worked on the tiles and i send two pics

Please email me those screenshots at nospam and I'll post them here so they can be seen. Thanks.

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Aeyes · Post by **Aeyes** » 2001-02-26 00:23:00

Found these shots from air to ground of Ubon airbase as used by the 8th TFW "Wolfpack" in Nam
Maybe its usefull for you Vietnamterraindevelopers

Com_gp · Post by **Com_gp** » 2001-02-26 09:21:00

Men, im starting to get angry with yahoo geocities (i suppose its their fault), have put the two screens in a webpage, hope it work, im gonna try to find which is the problem because i cant send pics.
about the tiles, they are pretty cool at low altitud flight, very repiting at high altitude.
The web page, at least works for me, hope it works for you also

http://www.geocities.com/com_gp1/index.html

Hey, aeyes the photos are great, although i still havent started to do airports (and i dont know if i will do them), ive found a cool tecnique to make the textures go exactly with the airports, still experimenting with it with Nellis AFB in the nevada theatre, ill post some screenshoots, if it works.

ComGP

Post by **Snake Man** » 2001-02-26 09:43:00

quote:Originally posted by Com_gp:
about the tiles, they are pretty cool at low altitud flight, very repiting at high altitude.

Also that coastline looks awesome, could you send me some examples of what you're done already?

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Snake Man

Com_gp · Post by **Com_gp** » 2001-02-27 09:41:00

Hey, snakeman, i cant send you the tiles by mail since my email account works from time to time, ive put the zip at this web page

http://www.geocities.com/com_gp1/zip.html

I also have put a couple of shoots of the rivers taken just before compressing the tiles, its supposed to work (i hope so), hey, im gonna put another link in the index page so if this one dont work you can use this other:

http://www.geocities.com/com_gp1/index.html

I havent included the coast tiles because they have diagonal transitions and i suppose you dont want to retile all the vietnam coast.
Anyhow, i hope this work, ComGP

Com_gp · Post by **Com_gp** » 2001-02-27 09:41:00

Everything done, supposed to work, hey, snakeman, have not included the fartiles.pal since mine was gonna mess up all of your texture.zip, you need to make the L,M,T tiles, your utilities are excelent for this althoug they dont support night lighting.
ComGP

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ccc · Post by **ccc** » 2001-02-27 10:23:00

hi Comgp,
those new jungle and coastline tiles are beautiful!
i can feel the "speedy sense" when flying low

Post by **Snake Man** » 2001-02-27 14:38:00

quote:Originally posted by Com_gp:
I havent included the coast tiles because they have diagonal transitions and i suppose you dont want to retile all the vietnam coast.

Yes please no retiling

Too bad, that coast looks so nice and tropical.

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Snake Man

Post by **Snake Man** » 2001-02-27 14:39:00

quote:Originally posted by Com_gp:
ive put the zip at this web page

Ok thanks now I have downloaded it.

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