Vietnam Beta 4 bug reports

PMC Youtube channel · Post by **Snake Man** » 2001-02-14 21:09:00

This is the place to post bug reports for Beta 4.

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Wild Bill · Post by **Wild Bill** » 2001-02-15 00:26:00

I am getting pkunzip error msg during installation. The first says "pkunzip error," and then "nothing to unzip." The rest of the theater installs. After selecting Vietnam theater in f4patch, I ctd when selecting the "viper" in the bottom right corner of the campaign screen. I have downloaded the beta twice now. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks.

brewskie · Post by **brewskie** » 2001-02-15 01:32:00

I got that pkzip window also. You close it and the install continues. I have not got the ctd, mine is running fine. I flew B-52's,F-4's,Prowlers ect...Unfortunatley it could be a number of things causing the ctd. Post your config.(erazor,or rp4.1,other patches)that will go along way.

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PMC Youtube channel · Post by **Snake Man** » 2001-02-15 04:09:00

quote:Originally posted by Wild Bill:
I am getting pkunzip error msg during installation. The first says "pkunzip error," and then "nothing to unzip." The rest of the theater installs.

Yes, sorry about that. its annoying to the user but the installer continues after the MS-Dos prompt pkzip screens are closed.

quote:After selecting Vietnam theater in f4patch, I ctd when selecting the "viper" in the bottom right corner of the campaign screen.

Which squadron did you select?
I assume you didnt select wrong campaign because there is no squadrons available on the not used campaign slots, there is even text "GO AWAY" if you noticed.

quote:I have downloaded the beta twice now. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks.

Just once is enough

Well as Brewskie already commented, it should work fine. Maybe you should make sure the Korean theater (and if you happen to have, Balkans) works correctly. Then re-install the VIETNAM THEATER maybe helps. There is no need to re-install whole Falcon 4 if your korean theater works ok.

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ccc · Post by **ccc** » 2001-02-15 04:56:00

Hi,
DL it and installed, flawlessly.
Congrats!!!

BTW, Vnam skin pack v1.0 is on your way.
post it for DL ASAP!!

Mantis · Post by **Mantis** » 2001-02-15 06:02:00

I had a CTD occur while flying an F-111. Was in dogfight mode, and had a MiG-19 on the nose and was about to lock it up. When the radar locked up the MiG it immediately crashed to the desktop.

Maybe I was hit by a missile with a CTD warhead

WOLF-257 · Post by **WOLF-257** » 2001-02-15 08:38:00

I got a failed to apply VietNam patch when I ran the F4Patch program.It told me the kneemap in the ..art/cockpit file did not match the one in F4Patch or in the VietNam folder.I checked and for some reason the one in ...art/cockpit... was a map of Italy...go figure.I renamed the other kneemaps and copied the New kneemap to the other folders and the F4Patch ran like it was supposed too.The correct kneemap is showing up in the game .

Before I tried to load anything I checked to make sure everything matched the suggested conditions in the Beta4 installer.I ran the game and it was the default Korea.After I applied the new theater everything seems to be working properly.I only saw one bug and it did not affect the way the game ran.

In the map where it shows the airbases,it lists Task Force 7 as Korat and shows the wrong squadrons.When you select this and click on a squadron it shows the correct aircraft just the squadron name is wrong.
However,in the tasking screen,in the small tactical map that shows the steer points and course lines it's showing the planes as taking off from Task Force 7 like it's supposed to.It does not seem to be affecting gameplay in any way so I'm not worried about it,i just thought I'd call it to your attention.

I only flew two missions,nasty affairs into Dong Ho,I completed one and got away with a shot-up plane and got nailed by an SA-2 coming off the target on the next one.The AI wingmen are getting a range of good to poor ratings so it looks like the AI is performing properly too.

Keep up the good work and thanks for all your time.

WOLF

PMC Youtube channel · Post by **Snake Man** » 2001-02-15 08:57:00

quote:Originally posted by WOLF-257:
it lists Task Force 7 as Korat and shows the wrong squadrons.

Thanks, bug found and bug fixed!

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ccc · Post by **ccc** » 2001-02-15 09:49:00

Snake Man,
did you got Vnam skin pack?

PMC Youtube channel · Post by **Snake Man** » 2001-02-15 12:40:00

quote:Originally posted by ccc:
Snake Man,
did you got Vnam skin pack?

Yes I got it and it looks very good, should I put it to downloads?

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ccc · Post by **ccc** » 2001-02-15 13:09:00

ya, post it on your DL page ASAP.

as for beta4, run smoothly on my pc.
1.should got all three campaign done asap.
2.should add south vietnam flag, change russian flag to old one, and add china flag.(in info/OOB)
3.more ground units.
4.wierd, that "small plane icon" on kneemap(in game) disappear?
5.to edit vnam-era wpn/jet/simdata, got to change files in terrain/obj folder. it could take a while.
6, seems you miss something in beta4..hmm.forget it.

ccc

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172ndhamm · Post by **172ndhamm** » 2001-02-15 17:53:00

Installation worked perfectly, I followed the steps suggested by brewski's in another thread. but once I began a campaign I noticed a few things,
a) the North Vietnamese airbase in the North Vietnamese city of Vinh was south of Da Nang. Was I the only one to see this? It was correctly listed to contain Mig21's.
b) The airbase at Sakon Nakhon (Naked Fanny) had Phantom squadrons. This base was only used by the fast jets for emergency landings. It held A-1 squadrons, and other SAR and Gunship units.
c) This confused me the worse, I chose a phantom squad at DaNang, and when I jumped in, the darn thing tipped over about 30 degrees to the left, (geez, I'm not that heavy) and during the take off did not correct itself. Landing was a disaster, as it assumed at 30 degree cant again, acting as if my left gear hadn't dropped. I thought perhaps I'd been damaged, but then all the other planes in my flight returned, and I watched them all crash with the same prob.

PMC Youtube channel · Post by **Snake Man** » 2001-02-15 20:04:00

quote:Originally posted by 172ndhamm:
c) This confused me the worse, I chose a phantom squad at DaNang, and when I jumped in, the darn thing tipped over about 30 degrees to the left,

What? Hmm can you use CTRL-Z L and take a screenshot from that location. Da Nang is perfectly leveled airbase.

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Tex · Post by **Tex** » 2001-02-16 04:29:00

The tilting over jet is a problem with an option in RP4.1 not being selected.

I'll be damned if I can think of it.

Sorry! Just double check that RP4.1 is installed correctly.

Tex

ccc · Post by **ccc** » 2001-02-16 04:42:00

Snake Man,loadout tweak on your way.
rough, but lots fun there.
Let me know if it work.

alright, i roughly tune down the pk of AAMs too. trust your gun now

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PMC Youtube channel · Post by **Snake Man** » 2001-02-16 05:59:00

quote:Originally posted by ccc:
Snake Man,loadout tweak on your way.
rough, but lots fun there.
Let me know if it work.

alright, i roughly tune down the pk of AAMs too. trust your gun now

Lets keep this area for bug reports only and continue new discussion at
http://www.pmctactical.org/f4/ubb/Forum ... 00079.html

Thanks.

btw, yesterday afternoon the beta 4 installer was downloaded 446 times from our server (it was mirrored by simactu.com and f4community.com at least) and yet there is so few bug reports (actual bugs), looking good!

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ccc · Post by **ccc** » 2001-02-16 08:41:00

what? only 446 hits?

Tahiti Bob · Post by **Tahiti Bob** » 2001-02-16 08:52:00

Just can't install Vn Beta 4!
The installer seems unable to find the F4 patch folder when asked, even when I manually select the correct path. I've downloaded the latest version of F4 patch but that makes no difference.

PMC Youtube channel · Post by **Snake Man** » 2001-02-16 13:18:00

quote:Originally posted by Tahiti Bob:
The installer seems unable to find the F4 patch folder when asked, even when I manually select the correct path.

Have you Expanded it?

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muzzlehead · Post by **muzzlehead** » 2001-02-16 13:22:00

quote:Originally posted by Snake_Man:
What? Hmm can you use CTRL-Z L and take a screenshot from that location. Da Nang is perfectly leveled airbase.

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I have experinced the same bug Snake. I'm running win 98 with only erazor 1.7099 ... no RP 4.1

Korea campaign works fine

I have been "jumping in" after take off and the rest of the beta is so SWEET

Tahiti Bob · Post by **Tahiti Bob** » 2001-02-16 14:10:00

Have you Expanded it?

Well, maybe I'm a bit stupid, but what do you mean by "expanding" F4 patch?

PMC Youtube channel · Post by **Snake Man** » 2001-02-16 14:39:00

quote:Originally posted by Tahiti Bob:
what do you mean by "expanding" F4 patch?

Select File -> Expand Package. It creates the F4Patch dir with all the subdirs of little patches. The F4Patch needs to be expanded for theaters to work.

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Tahiti Bob · Post by **Tahiti Bob** » 2001-02-16 14:45:00

OK.
Thanks!

coopers-hawk · Post by **coopers-hawk** » 2001-02-17 15:18:00

I have experienced the same problem except when I enter the campaign screen I have the Vietnam map on the right but no air bases{sqds] to select.If I then select the Viper bottom right I crash to Falcon 322 window.Severial installs of your Beta 4 make no difference whatsoever.Any ideas?? from a very frustrated wouldbe F4 pilot!!!

quote:Originally posted by Wild Bill:
I am getting pkunzip error msg during installation. The first says "pkunzip error," and then "nothing to unzip." The rest of the theater installs. After selecting Vietnam theater in f4patch, I ctd when selecting the "viper" in the bottom right corner of the campaign screen. I have downloaded the beta twice now. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks.

PMC Youtube channel · Post by **Snake Man** » 2001-02-17 15:29:00

quote:Originally posted by coopers-hawk:
when I enter the campaign screen I have the Vietnam map on the right but no air bases{sqds] to select.

Did you select the Rolling Fire campaign (middle)? That is the only one in Vietnam that has any squadrons/units/targets.

You should see "GO AWAY" text on the other campaign map views that do not work.

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Death_119 · Post by **Death_119** » 2001-02-17 16:11:00

maybe you forgot to enable fly\task any jet.

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coopers-hawk · Post by **coopers-hawk** » 2001-02-17 18:27:00

I take it you mean enablefly\task in F4 3.2. Yes I have.I have just done another install of Beta 4 and things have come on. I now get the campaign screen with map and air bases shown, but when you go to the next screen the mission schedule does not have any details for missions to choose.The campaign map and ongoing actions click over but i am unable to go any futher.Any observations??I also have reloaded F4 and required patches and then defraged the HD.

quote:Originally posted by Death_119:
maybe you forgot to enable fly\task any jet.

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brewskie · Post by **brewskie** » 2001-02-18 16:31:00

Well for some good news, this theater is
coming along just fine. It's starting to get better than Korea.
Very challenging with flak and ground troops everywhere up north. It's looking good.

ccc · Post by **ccc** » 2001-02-20 01:48:00

no, its not a bug.
1.after sorties over NV, i found no Mig21 up?
forgot to add mig21 sq?
2. how about change "NVNAM" to "NV"?
3.some flag of NV labeled DPRK, at the beginning of campaign page, flag vs flag.
4.no SV flag? be sure to use old Russian flag and add a china flag.

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PMC Youtube channel · Post by **Snake Man** » 2001-02-20 03:30:00

quote:Originally posted by ccc:
1.after sorties over NV, i found no Mig21 up? forgot to add mig21 sq?

I think so

Gotta add that to the new version of campaign. I'm planning on really boosting up the ground unit movement thing, because the Beta 4 campaign is "sure thing" meaning it won crash (CTD) because of the groun units.

Also some improvement for historical squadrons per airbases fix would be nice to have. You guys have been supplying me with good information, so its time to browse through our forum here to collect all the data.

quote:2. how about change "NVNAM" to "NV"?

Ok sure, if its better?

quote:3.some flag of NV labeled DPRK, at the beginning of campaign page, flag vs flag.

Hmm where did you see this?

quote:4.no SV flag? be sure to use old Russian flag and add a china flag.

South Vietnamese flag is old russian flag?

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ccc · Post by **ccc** » 2001-02-20 04:36:00

quote:Originally posted by Snake_Man:
Hmm where did you see this?

4.no SV flag? be sure to use old Russian flag and add a china flag.

South Vietnamese flag is old russian flag?
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1.hmm..TE builder? pliz check it, the NV flag is correct, but labeled DPRK.
2.sorry, i mean different things.
SV flag:

former USSR:

China:

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Mantis · Post by **Mantis** » 2001-02-22 16:17:00

HOW DO I UNAPPY VIETNAM????

I unclicked it in F4patch - yet when I go into F4 again to play korea two things are still there:

a) the 1st and 3rd campaign still say go away,

b) the 2nd campaign still has all the vietnam air bases and squadrons!!!

how do i fix this?!?!? how can I COMPLETELY uninstall vietnam???

(and perhaps reinstall it and switch between vietnam and korea with ease)

PMC Youtube channel · Post by **Snake Man** » 2001-02-22 16:26:00

quote:Originally posted by Mantis:
I unclicked it in F4patch - yet when I go into F4 again to play korea two things are still there:

Something has gone wrong, did the F4Patch say "Removed Vietnam Theater" when you clicked Apply?

quote:how do i fix this?!?!? how can I COMPLETELY uninstall vietnam???

First unapply Vietnam Theater from F4Patch, then you just use your windows
Start -> Settings -> Control Panel -> Add/Remove Programs
and select Vietnam Theater for uninstall.

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brewskie · Post by **brewskie** » 2001-02-22 17:16:00

I've had no problems switching between the
2 theaters. I just go into F4patch uncheck nam, apply, it say removed,and Korea is ready. I've gone back and forth a few times.

Mantis · Post by **Mantis** » 2001-02-23 03:15:00

Yes, it said unapplied and the dot disappeared from where it says "Vietnam Theater" in the F4Patch list.

I tried uninstalling it after that but then it said that vietnam was not unapplied. Thus the "next" button was greyed out. I think I need to do a manual uninstall of the vietnam files here and reinstall it.

ccc · Post by **ccc** » 2001-02-23 06:01:00

its not a bug again: no cloud in campagin?

BTW what a thrill! win my distinguish flying cross in Nam! 6 mig down!

TheSilkMan · Post by **TheSilkMan** » 2001-02-23 10:48:00

Not really a bug but would be nice to have a line drawn indicating the border between North and South Vietnam.

ccc · Post by **ccc** » 2001-02-23 13:56:00

ya, that mean painting lines, marks on maps

BTw. Snake Man, Would you post your latest *.cam files for DL? Vnam is getting hot

I enjoyed some sortie flying mig19 and 21...hmm, F4E is formidable,,could be too powerful in FM! its very hard to bring down one phantom with 19 or 21!
Hope Saint can release updated mig FMs ASAP..I can hardly catch B52, not to mention "ambush" them.

and one more wierd thing, when i fly mig19(from southest NV base), persuit EA6Bs toward east, it seems i hit some "invisible wall" at sea and cant go further east.

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PMC Youtube channel · Post by **Snake Man** » 2001-03-06 06:36:00

quote:Originally posted by TheSilkMan:
Not really a bug but would be nice to have a line drawn indicating the border between North and South Vietnam.

Somebody with artistic talent should touch up that KneeMap to give it more professional/old look, also extra data should be added like there was in the Balkans kneemap/campaign map.

Anybody interested of doing this?

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PMC Youtube channel · Post by **Snake Man** » 2001-03-06 06:45:00

quote:Originally posted by ccc:
Would you post your latest *.cam files for DL? Vnam is getting hot

I'm preparing v0.4 right now (beta 4 -> release 0.4) and it includes the new ground campaign, unfortunately little less units than last one. Its a long story and I'll explain it later.

But this is TRUE GROUND GODDAMN CAMPAIGN.

quote:I enjoyed some sortie flying mig19 and 21...hmm, F4E is formidable,,could be too powerful in FM! its very hard to bring down one phantom with 19 or 21!

I think there is now two mig-21 squadrons, on Vinh and Kep. Selected Kep squadron but there was no flights scheduled... but they are there.

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