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ccc · Post by **ccc** » 2001-06-25 05:31:00

Just learn PumpyHead is re-shaping F16 nose, check pic here:

http://www.delphi.com/falcon4/messages/?msg=18374.1

BTW, I've doen some very minor modifications like nose of MC130H and nose tip of Su25. Too minor tweak to post any pic.

ccc · Post by **ccc** » 2001-06-25 11:30:00

Red Storm...incoming

Com_gp · Post by **Com_gp** » 2001-06-25 16:41:00

Hi ccc,

Ive tested the MC130 but it doesnt work, the game crashes whenever i make an external view of it.
And other thing, ive done your MiG29 f4patch compatible, it looks hell of cool, sorry, i didnt ask you for permission, but i saw some photos of a german MiG at Nellis...

ComGP

icebrain · Post by **icebrain** » 2001-06-25 21:45:00

CCC: Did you make the MiG-29 mod? If so, could you relocate the slots while you're at it, and maybe add one for a centerline tank? Might as well incorporate pylon fixes with the new/revised models, so they will be compatible.

ccc · Post by **ccc** » 2001-06-26 00:36:00

ComGP,
well done, you can convert them into f4p as you wish.

BTW, i got a German mig29 skin in TSP pack, you may use it for Nevada.
as for MC130..hmm..CTD shouldnt happen..just a minor fix.

Icebrain,
Im not in charge of any mig29 mod development.

SHINOBI · Post by **SHINOBI** » 2001-06-26 21:45:00

Hey CCC!
I Joined F4LE as you may have already seen, and started working on the F-16's intakes.
Here are some shots of the best thing i could get without adding vertices and triangles.
(Hope y'all like)

[http://www.falcon4hangar.hpg.com.br/fal ... _32_53.jpg]
[http://www.falcon4hangar.hpg.com.br/fal ... _32_41.jpg]
[http://www.falcon4hangar.hpg.com.br/fal ... _31_04.jpg]

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SHINOBI · Post by **SHINOBI** » 2001-06-26 21:54:00

Hell!
How do I post pictures here or put links?!
I tryied HTML Code and that "[" and "]" stuff but nothing worked!

Aeyes · Post by **Aeyes** » 2001-06-27 00:20:00

It's like this:
{img}http://www.the place where yourpicis.jpg{/img}

But replace the { with [

ccc · Post by **ccc** » 2001-06-27 00:45:00

Alright, i do this for you

very nice modeling! do you use good line drawing for this?
BTW, Pumpyhead is re-shaping radome..so..how to intergrate your modeling in one single viper?

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SHINOBI · Post by **SHINOBI** » 2001-06-27 01:42:00

Thanks Aeyes, thanks CCC.
I use "good photos" for this, and i'm stuck in this latest model because of the lack of vertices and triangles. I'll take it better as soon as the next LE version is released...

'Till there i can only wait..

I don't know how to make it an Add-On patch. If somebody could help me...
Again, thank you both for the help 'up tehre', and c'y'all.

ccc · Post by **ccc** » 2001-06-27 11:12:00

Though Dragon is about to release new version of LE, i dont expect we can have a super-detailed phantom in near future.
so, i do minor tweak to create this toy.
1. nose cone re-shaped, color changed.
2. canopy re-shaped.
3. chin re-shaped. skin modified from Harald Renner's excellent phantom skin.

Tazz · Post by **Tazz** » 2001-06-28 11:14:00

Cool! A RF-4C!! But I don't think we can make that work like a RECON Pod in Falcon 4.0 without exe modifications can we?

ccc · Post by **ccc** » 2001-06-28 11:25:00

How about a RECON pod with no shape, loaded on an extra, invisible pylon, and set to be default loadout?

you cant limit your imagniation!

Tazz · Post by **Tazz** » 2001-06-28 13:07:00

But what idiot would we get to fly this RF-4C over Hanoi? Afterall.... RF-4C's are unarmed..

ccc · Post by **ccc** » 2001-06-28 13:13:00

quote:Originally posted by Tazz:
But what idiot would we get to fly this RF-4C over Hanoi? Afterall.... RF-4C's are unarmed..

Hehe, Tazz, ever fly EA's Chuck Yeager's Aircombat? or JimG's Jane's Fighter Anthology Namstuff missions? Ready for the challenge?

Tazz · Post by **Tazz** » 2001-06-28 14:46:00

I loved Chuck Yeager's Air Combat 3.0!!! (No idea why they called it 3.0 because you could only fly in the previous 2 versions.. not fire a single bullet.) Man I played that game over and over and over.

I never played FA.. I did flew a lot of USNF (the original one) with the USMC add-on. I tried ATF but never got much into it though. FA game too late I think.. I was already flying something else. I think it was either Falcon 3.0 or EF2000.

Tazz · Post by **Tazz** » 2001-06-28 14:47:00

Which reminds.. are you going to model the SU-17/SU-22 as well?

Wishful thinking.

ccc · Post by **ccc** » 2001-06-29 03:17:00

quote:Originally posted by Tazz:
I loved Chuck Yeager's Air Combat 3.0!!! (No idea why they called it 3.0 because you could only fly in the previous 2 versions.. not fire a single bullet.) Man I played that game over and over and over.

Simple, there are 1.0 and 2.0, very nice in old days!

As for Su17/22, hmm...too many things to do, i got a long list covering air, land and sea.

Honestly a rough fitter is half-done a while ago, but i dropped it. Fitter shape is best modeled from Mig21, but mig21 shape contains too many odd vertices, so test shapes like A7/F8/Su7, etc are dropped.

simply put, we need a brand new mig21 shape to work on.

ccc · Post by **ccc** » 2001-06-29 07:34:00

Ready your camera. Enjoy your shopping tour over Honei!

For some reason, there are see-thrus in pit section and unable to edit elevator at this moment.

Tazz · Post by **Tazz** » 2001-06-29 10:03:00

Cool! Did you abused the F-4 model for that?

ccc · Post by **ccc** » 2001-06-29 10:17:00

EXACTLY

texture need remapping. and fix those elevators. anyway im quite happy flying this toy in f4 world!
Time to get some pit photo for it!

Widowmaker · Post by **Widowmaker** » 2001-06-29 10:48:00

this is the rF101 voodoo right???

pretty cool, yet still some work to do

widmak

Tazz · Post by **Tazz** » 2001-06-29 13:23:00

CCC, insanely stupid question ahead:

How do I install that new MiG-29 LOD of yours?

Tazz · Post by **Tazz** » 2001-06-29 20:06:00

Did you already send that model to Viperwear so they can adjust their MiG-29 skins? Same goes for the F-14, F-15 and basically any other double tail aircraft where you can now have different skins for inner and outer tail area?

dharry · Post by **dharry** » 2001-06-29 20:39:00

About your F-101, ccc ..........

Do you allow to download your voodoo ? And if yes, where can I get this masterpiece ?

I'm a big fan for all of the F-100-series planes, that's why I can hardly wait to become a "voodoo-driver" in F4 !!!!!!!!

SHINOBI · Post by **SHINOBI** » 2001-06-29 23:38:00

Hey guyz, guess what!
My FTP server deleted everything from my site due to 'Mirroring' (i was using that space for images and files only).
Does somebody know of a good server where they ALLOW US to 'mirror'?

(That's why the images are missing above)
Thanks in advance.

ccc · Post by **ccc** » 2001-06-30 00:06:00

Tazz, toy at LE files. use at your risk.
Bear in mind, its a test sample.

BTW, I'd like to say something about skin-makings and remapping.
First, anyone can do this job, so we need a standard templete, or other new skins cant be done accordingly.
Second, the remapping is a tough job, who want to take this and release his first template could dominate that texture layout, VW want this?

I didnt hear any solid project yet. BTW, new LE should do this job in an easier way.
and Third, the design of new skins, how many texture bmp for an a/c? what size, 256 or 128? size and quantity combination? Skinners know what they want, which part should occupy more space, and so put their layout design, thus, they are the best guys to do remapping. just my 2c.

See, not a small project for any single a/c..if you mean a serious whole-wrapped skin.

PS: Voodoo not complete lod1 yet. unless you can manipulate lod file yourself, you cant fly it at this moment.

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ccc · Post by **ccc** » 2001-06-30 03:09:00

*** FLASH *** FLASH *** FLASH ***
KIEV battle group enter North Atlantic! Red storm..RISING!

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Widowmaker · Post by **Widowmaker** » 2001-06-30 06:24:00

ccc.. you are the man..

widmak

btw; any guys outhere going to Leeuwarden next weekend
for the Klu Military Airshow???

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Aeyes · Post by **Aeyes** » 2001-06-30 09:41:00

Yup, i am going, on saturday

Widowmaker · Post by **Widowmaker** » 2001-06-30 10:28:00

I'll be going both days
1 day to spend in all the tents
and 1 for the ac's ...

will you be wearing your cockpitmeister
T-shirt???

anyways I hope the weather will be better then last year in volkel..

widmak

Chris Washout Carter · Post by **Chris Washout Carter** » 2001-06-30 10:28:00

Hi CCC

Am I right in thinking that is the Russian VSTOL aircraft (can't remember the designation - MiG28?).

That will be excellent for use in the Balkans as we have the Kuznetsov carrier in there.

Excellent work as usual.

Later

Chris

Oliver · Post by **Oliver** » 2001-06-30 12:22:00

quote:
*** FLASH *** FLASH *** FLASH ***
KIEV battle group enter North Atlantic! Red storm..RISING!

Okay, ccc... You're a freaking teaser!

Anyone in for the Red Storm Theatre now?
We (I *g*) need it, badly

Note: this is serious!

Widowmaker · Post by **Widowmaker** » 2001-06-30 16:18:00

well wich countries need to be in
wich excecutables do you wanna suport

please state any info....

red storm rising means shit to me
as i am as red as my government allows me to be...

please more info and i'll make the map
and features...

widmak

Tazz · Post by **Tazz** » 2001-06-30 18:49:00

I think I'll be skipping the open house this year. Weather looks to be very good but I just received by own house!! After 1 1/2 years of looking

So I'll be busy doing the walls and stuff like that.. gotta make that attic a good "LAN spot" as well..

Widow,

I love Red Stars and russian equipment!

There's nothing like the simplicity and raw power of a MiG-21 or Su-22..

Oliver · Post by **Oliver** » 2001-07-01 11:29:00

quote:well wich countries need to be in

That is a hard one. I took a look at a map yesterday and thought about which 20°x20° area would be right for that theatre.
Turns out that one could have either parts of Great Britain (which we'd need to stage F-111, F-15E and bomber strikes from, as well as Tanker and Airlift missions, kinda like Japan in the Korean theatre) and only half of Poland or no Great Britain at all but all of Poland. What do you think?
Concerning the north-south axis, there is no such problem. I thought about setting the southern bound somewhere within the Alps, more to the north than to the south. That'd put the northern one about halfway up into scandinavia.

quote:
wich excecutables do you wanna suport

As far as I'm concerned, the eRazor exe would be enough. One couldn't fit a theatre like that in a 10°x10° map anyway.

quote:
red storm rising means shit to me

-verbose

quote:
please more info and i'll make the map
and features...

Well, I guess if we _really_ started working on it, we'd finish by the time we grow tired of flying Falcon 5

Sorry, I guess I was probably just daydreaming again. This really _is_ too much work to do. Maybe if PMC and the F4 Terrain Team worked together, would it be possible to finish this in a reasonable amount of time, but as it is...
Just think of all the new aircraft 3D models that would have to be created, new weapons, new airfield objects, new tiles (consider all the different landscapes from the Alps up into scandinavia!)

Now if only ccc stopped teasing....

Hunter · Post by **Hunter** » 2001-07-01 15:01:00

How about this?
I added the landing gear, but still on beta stages. Only doing this for fun, I don't think it will be possible to had a new model to F4.

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87th_striker · Post by **87th_striker** » 2001-07-01 18:51:00

Nice pictures, Tazz ! You did take them yourself, as usual, I guess ?

Beautiful model, Hunter

Keep it coming !

icebrain · Post by **icebrain** » 2001-07-02 00:09:00

quote:Originally posted by ccc:
Im not in charge of any mig29 mod development.

Dang! I meant to say LOD changes...

ccc · Post by **ccc** » 2001-07-02 03:31:00

Chris, its Yak38, converted from Su25 shape. btw its based on Kiev, not Kuz.

Oliver, Red storm theater covering plenty of landmass..i think some seperate Norway/North sea/UK/Iceland/Fulda gap theaters sound better. btw we dont know if f4 engine can handle so many units' movement calculation in 20x20 map.

Tazz, nice shots, hope we can upgrade current fishbed shape..just too rough.

Hunter, cool harrier! since no 3ds converter at this moment, we'd better keep upgrading current av8 shape. supppose you guys are working on it.

Icebrain, we mean the same thing. I have no concern with any serious mig29 project.

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