Questions about initial map creation

[Guest]

Hi Snake_Man,
Sorry for bothering you.
Follow yoru tutorial, i get few 10x10 dem maps(for test run).
1.Iceland, Cuba, Timor, Kurile islands, UK: 10x10 frame cant cover ..some islands are far larger than i expected! hope 20x20 maps could work someday.
2.Folkland islands: ok, but cant cover AFBs on Argentian land. 20x20 should cover everything.
Anyway, i got three files for each maps:
*.hdr, *.bin, *.fmt
Q1: what they stand for? use all of them for new theater?
Q2: I got terrain feature *.zip file too, it wont dl automatically, do you get yours by manual ftp?

No tool to run script, so stopped my progress. you said you can provide help, how?

My idea is to build a theater with little tiling/obj placing work, so it could be done in days. Then offer it for testing campaign logic/ground unit movement routes/ground unit, sam AI interaction/event triggers, etc.
Falkland map with east and weat island, could be a good testbed for other theaters.
(Though only one airstrip there, we can use carrier as hostile and test workable PAK settings.)





then how to process them? no idea about perl thing.

Then i went creating terrain feature for *.zip, file. it suggested use manual ftp, do you get zip file that way?

[Guest]

sorry please delete this.
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then how to process them? no idea about perl thing.

Then i went creating terrain feature for *.zip, file. it suggested use manual ftp, do you get zip file that way?
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[Guest]

(Damn this quote thing is feaking me out).

> 1.Iceland, Cuba, Timor, Kurile islands, UK: > 10x10 frame cant cover ..some islands are > far larger than i expected!
> hope 20x20 maps could work someday.

Yes indeed 10 by 10 is "tiny", its kind of large in F4 universe, but in real world perspective its very small.

> Anyway, i got three files for each maps:
> *.hdr, *.bin, *.fmt
> Q1: what they stand for? use all of them > for new theater?

Well .hdr is for lat/long information, .fmt cannot remember and the .bin is the actual datafile for the map.

> Q2: I got terrain feature *.zip file too, > it wont dl automatically, do you get yours > by manual ftp?

If your browser timeouts when the datas are generated, it means that you are trying to download such a large database that the maproom page cannot produce it fast enough. Try to get one "feature" at time. Manual ftp... umm I just got datas from the web page and never tried the manual ftp thing

> No tool to run script, so stopped my > progress. you said you can provide help, > how?

Dont have linux box? try using Windows perl, download it from www.perl.com I guess. If you simply cannot make it work, give me the map coordinates and I'll create the .L2 and .O2 files for you.

PMC TFW,
Snake Man.

[Guest]

Thanx Snake Man

coordinates:
top: -46.0 bottom:-56.0
left: -64.0 right: -54.0

islands in the center of map, no Argentian coast/land included.

[Guest]

Done. theater.l2 and theater.o2 files are ready for you.

You can download it here:

http://www.pmctactical.org/f4/downloads/argentina.zip

PMC TFW,
Snake Man.

[Guest]

Got it! Thanks!
those files are soooo small
err.. dont you mind processing script for terrain features?

[Guest]

Sure. What were the countrynames it requires again?

PMC TFW,
Snake Man.

[Guest]

We got a little problem, the script does not handle - (minus) lat/long digits too hot. It gives me an error.

I'll have to see if this could be fixed.

PMC TFW,
Snake Man.

[Guest]

got it. thankx.
dont u mind processing script of terrain features for this theater?

[Guest]

sorry for double post.

Terrain features files: select south america, then pick Falkland island.
its 126k in zip.

now i got *.bin, *.l2, and *.o2.
waiting for terrain feature files.
Once you solve that problem. i'll start tiling ASAP. thanx.

[Guest]

> now i got *.bin, *.l2, and *.o2.

In TerrainView you dont need .bin file.

> waiting for terrain feature files.

Now you can download them at:

http://www.pmctactical.org/f4/downloads ... atures.zip

That feature packet is missing airport and city datas btw, roads/rivers/coast is there.
If you need anything else, let me know.

PMC TFW,
Snake Man.

[Guest]

Thanx, start working.

[Guest]

I have now updated the features, there are now all the features you can get to Falkland Islands. Enjoy.

http://www.pmctactical.org/f4/downloads ... atures.zip

PMC TFW,
Snake Man.

[Guest]

Thanx Snake_Man.
I tested falkland files on terrainview 1.44 last night, it ran ok. but i quitted tv without saving my work. then unable to fire it up again. i've mailed Julian for help.
The error dialog box said: runtime error...abnormal program termination"

[Guest]

Hmm you cannot get TerravinView to start up?

Hmm, try unzipping fresh copy of v1.44 to another dir and start it up there. If it dont start up... I'm outta ideas.

PMC TFW,
Snake Man.

[Guest]

If everything fails, try deleting the registry entry for tv (if it has one). It work sometime. WARNING : messing with the registry is dangerous. Be sure to know what you are doing or ask for counsel before doing anything....

YLR

[Guest]

thanx everybody. I got reply from Julian.
Though not solve my problem completely, it works and i've done few segments. thanx u all.

TV saves some stuff in the registry - undex HKCU\Software\Codec\Terrainview
- other than that I don't think it saves any other state.
You could try deleteing all the stuff and see.

Julian.