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Re: - mid eighties (1984-1989) campaign editing/creation -

Post by Tobias Adam » 2010-04-19 19:56:13

I forgot: I only made some short flights yet, so I am not 100% sure about the buffer overrun.

Does somebody know why there is still "nowhere" displayed in the OOB although it is correct on the map?

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Re: - mid eighties (1984-1989) campaign editing/creation -

Post by Luk » 2010-04-19 20:13:16

would just like to hand the file over to Luk to do a last check- it's his work, I just did the linking. So all credit goes to him.
Its going to SnakeMan Tobias. I only slightly reworked the Czech area in *.CAM file. :wink:

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Post by Tobias Adam » 2010-04-19 20:22:06

Oooops... Please check if there are some unlinked bridges... (Object list- Parent -> scroll down) I forgot a few and just sended the reworked file back to you... I don't know if I was fast enough to send the "reworked file" early enough.

Well, if there are, please send me the file back, I will rework it again by just re- importing the linked bridges ;-) Anyway, it would also work out to just import the czech objectives into the file which is basically the same. If you don't want to do it, send it to me, I will do so and fix what I just messed up by being too late :-D It's only about 1 or 2 hours to fix those links, maybe I already gave the file to you.

Sorry.

Edit: Just looked up the date, 11th April. Should be the one with the correct links :-) :-) I should really keep some kind of history... Please send me your file, your file is the latest one then.

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Re: - mid eighties (1984-1989) campaign editing/creation -

Post by toonces » 2010-04-20 21:37:18

Luk,
There must be some sort of language disconnect between us. I definitely don't speak your native language better than you speak english, so I guess I better make myself clearer.

First, what I meant about Stef is this: Stef is a perfectionist. I am not. Stef will spend two years tweaking a terrain before he works the .cam files. I will take whatever SM posts and work with it. I certainly like flying over nice terrain, and if that is your passion, then I'm all for it.

As for the rest, I'm not impatient guy. Take as long as you want. I'm going on deployment until November and won't be editing anything I don't take with me. How long this takes truly has no bearing on my feelings.

You all have your mind made up about what you need in Europe to make a working campaign. I look forward to flying it when it's done.

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Post by Snake Man » 2010-04-21 09:49:16

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Post by Luk » 2010-04-21 09:53:08

I am very very happy for your post toonces. (I mean the part about impatience)

Good luck and take care.

BTW - I will be here soon with some thoughts, I want to consult with you gentlemens.

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Post by derStef » 2010-04-21 19:48:26

may be the force be with us! and with you too toonces!

now i have to try to keep the peeps together without you mate! :wink:

try to send my stuff tomorrow to you.

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Post by derStef » 2010-05-03 11:37:55

Gentlemen, I'm still working on my campaing plan.

you know narrowing down the flying area by removing objects..... and it works pretty well...

Luk, i tried to implement your terrain files into my FF5 install but it keeps on CTDing. anyway to get them working in FF5? would be very nice!!

Gentlemen, i think I'm on the right track here. anyone who wants to test it out, just let me know, i'm assembling a d/l package of this campaign atm.


flew already ~16 missions in a row without CTDing...


btw further i have 3 people out there who are creating dedicated european skins atm! (soviet Su-25, MiG-21s, MiG-29s, USAFE F-16/F-15 tails, ....)

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Re: - mid eighties (1984-1989) campaign editing/creation -

Post by Luk » 2010-05-05 14:32:17

Luk, i tried to implement your terrain files into my FF5 install but it keeps on CTDing
Does it crash in TE/instant action?

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Post by derStef » 2010-05-06 09:53:49

Luk wrote:
Luk, i tried to implement your terrain files into my FF5 install but it keeps on CTDing
Does it crash in TE/instant action?

Luk

yes, keeps crashing on the pie screen, Instant action, TE & campaigns.

(i have "just" copied your theater.l2 theater.o2 & theater.map file into my \Theaters\Europe\terrdata\terrain folder...) I'm using FF5.3 here...

any advice?

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Re: - mid eighties (1984-1989) campaign editing/creation -

Post by Luk » 2010-05-06 13:52:47

yes, keeps crashing on the pie screen, Instant action, TE & campaigns.
(i have "just" copied your theater.l2 theater.o2 & theater.map file into my \Theaters\Europe\terrdata\terrain folder...) I'm using FF5.3 here...
any advice?
Are you kidding Stef? :lol:

When copied, you have to also:
Remove other Lx,Ox files from the directory (there should be L2,O2,map and mea files only).
Delete/remove fartiles.raw from "texture" directory (dont know whether FF5 still use it..?).
You need your AF type texture.bin, zip for free falcon (some DDS version you have written about before-or wait for final release).
I think, you can use old "mea" file (better to produce the new one by Pathmaker).
Then run SPTInstall - it will make new LX,OX files + perhaps also fartiles.raw data(if FF5 still use it).

So you can not mix new L2/O2 with older L3/O3 etc...!
You must use AF compatibile texture.bin/zip. (terrain files use this type tile-codeing)

BTW: When talking about "multifalcon"(for AF/OF/FF) Eu version - what does it mean FF? Does it mean FF5?
It is very important - FF5 has some serious changes in DB (or am I wrong?)

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Re: - mid eighties (1984-1989) campaign editing/creation -

Post by derStef » 2010-05-08 12:19:05

Luk wrote:
So you can not mix new L2/O2 with older L3/O3 etc...!
You must use AF compatibile texture.bin/zip. (terrain files use this type tile-codeing)
Ok, will try matey :oops: :wink:
Luk wrote:BTW: When talking about "multifalcon"(for AF/OF/FF) Eu version - what does it mean FF? Does it mean FF5?
It is very important - FF5 has some serious changes in DB (or am I wrong?)

I would say yes, FF5.x, because it is the latest version of FF.

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Re: - mid eighties (1984-1989) campaign editing/creation -

Post by Luk » 2010-05-08 20:59:22

Ok, will try matey
good luck (just note - you have an old, firs stage L2)
I would say yes, FF5.x, because it is the latest version of FF.
Do you have any documentation about FF5 objectives? I have heard, the database is "cleaned". I dont know - what does it mean?

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Re: - mid eighties (1984-1989) campaign editing/creation -

Post by molnibalage » 2010-07-12 15:03:24

http://freefalcon.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17735

Have you seen my thread? IMHO a good Europe theater is not possible without AIM-9L/S because in the '80s only GB got AIM-9M.
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Re: - mid eighties (1984-1989) campaign editing/creation -

Post by Luk » 2010-07-14 07:46:38

Yes, I have seen. Because your mod is mostly about weapons, it is good that you started it independently of the theater, or in finished Korea theater.

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