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Here's a rough overview of current projects. slow progress though.

A1--3ds
A3 --n/a
A4 -- dxf/3ds/from FS, promising model.
A5 -- new 3ds, new build
A6 --new 3ds by Orion in progress
A7 -- Fred, in progress
F100 -- 3ds
F101/RF101 --3ds/ new dxf from MSFS
F102 -- 3ds textured, rough lod conversion, waitng further tweaking.
F104 -- Jerry, on hold?
F105 --ComGP/Jerry, on hold?
F106 -- n/a
F4 -- several variants in progress, thanx
Quake! B model almost done.
F8 -- 3ds
B57 -- 3ds
C119, C121, C123, O-1, O-2, A-26, S-2, F-5A -- n/a
OV-10 -- Mike, available in SP3.
PT-76 -- lod converted by Quake. not textured yet.
Major USN vessel: n/a

other Vnam related stuff done:

T-34 MBT/NVA -- available in SP3
AGM12B/C -- sp3?
AGM-62 -- II in Sp3, I not added yet.
Mk117, mk118 gp-- in sp3
MK129 gp -- hold
Pave knife, pave spike -- model done.
AIM-9B/D -- in sp3
SUU-14A dispenser -- model done
SUU-16 gunpod --model done, gunpod not support by UT (at this moment?)
SUU-25 gunpod --model done
RA-5C ---3ds done
AIM-4A/C/D/F/G -- done
AGM-78 --in sp3

PS: Im afraid 3d support could be quite limited with first SP3 release.
so, for editing campaign sq/unit(with latest DB), you can use:

F-4E
F-4G(as B/C/D model, no gun)
A-6(if enable in time, in sp3)
F-5E(as F-5A)
C-130
B-52
Mig-17
Mig-19
Mig-21
UH-1
AH-1
MD500
CH-47
T55/M60/S60/K12/Zil/M163/Hawk SAM/BTR/Zsu23-4/Zsu57

the ammo support include:
most Mk series GP bomb, cluster bomb, some GBU, one naplam
AA1
AA2C/D
AGM45
AGM65A/B
AIM9B/D, AGM78, AGM62 II(if enable in time)
LAU

a/c drop tank support: **expect a/c crash due to run out of fuel frequently**
F-4 wing and centerline tank
F-5 : n/a
A-6 : done, not in sp3 yet
mig17/19/21: some are done but all n/a in sp3.

Congrats on your hard work...if you can get a F-105G and a carrier based F-4J, then you can do Linebacker I (1972), which should be a hoot. Another item to consider...F4Browse will enable you to make some new objectives and there is a need for some various types of villages that don't look like cities...also, you know about the tree edits...well this is another fun prospect!

hi Jim,
F105 probably on hold.
good thing is, F-4B/C/D/J/N/M/K/S is almost done, see 3d toy threads on general discussion forum.
Besides, Aim-4A/C/D/F/G and Aim-9B/C/D/E/H are ready as well.

F-102 textured and waiting lod conversion, my favorite, in FA days.

village, sure, we cannot populate vnam with skyscrappers, not even today!!

BTW Jim, pliz check this threada and give some idea, we must got skin number assigned and artists settled ASAP.
http://www.pmctactical.org/f4/cgi-bin/u ... 8&t=000273

quote:Originally posted by ccc:
F105 probably on hold.

It does not need to be...

I was thinking that we could help out and test it to find out whats wrong with it and maybe some F4LE guys can help if there are work to be done etc.

PMC TFW
Snake Man

no worry. the development will resume someday.

AFAIK, most LE masters got full hand of projects this moment(and i keep adding more workload on them hehe ).

quote:Originally posted by ccc:
no worry. the development will resume someday. AFAIK, most LE masters got full hand of projects this moment(and i keep adding more workload on them hehe ).

Since you are the 3d god here, I wont argue.

Its just shame, it would have been great addition to Vietnam SP3 release.

PMC TFW
Snake Man

Hi

Villages - There are a bunch of small house/farm and stable models already in the database. There is even a model of a house on stilts with a small boat moored alongside it which would be great for Vietnam.

What is needed I think is the Village objectives that currently contain large skyscrapers to be replaced with many of these small houses.

Might get round to it myself one day as it would also suit the other theatres.

Later


Chris

BTW, will there be a new tile set for the SP3 Vietnam theater?

quote:Originally posted by Vexx_0071:
BTW, will there be a new tile set for the SP3 Vietnam theater?

Not really... I have some rice paddy and jungle tiles made by ComGP but they need a bit work to make complete sets.

I might add those in, have to see when we get there.

PMC TFW
Snake Man

http://www.simhq.com/simhq3/sims/boards ... 317-2.html

i've kept tracking this thread about Vnam toys. compareing those modeled in Projket 1/Strike Fighter beta, we have:
=============================
Mk 81 82 83 84 bomb
M-117 750-lb bomb
Mk.20 Rockeye II
BLU-1 Napalm
AGM-45A Shrike
370-gal Drop Tank
600-gal Drop Tank
----------------------> already in SP3

SUU-23/A Gun Pod -----> done but n/a in SP3

AIM-9B Sidewinder
AIM-9D Sidewinder
AIM-9G Sidewinder
AIM-9H Sidewinder
AIM-9E Sidewinder
AIM-9E-2 Sidewinder
AIM-9J Sidewinder
--------------------> most modeled in SP3

AIM-7D Sparrow
AIM-7E Sparrow
AIM-7E-2 Sparrow
---------------------> no CT records, 3d available.

LAU-3/A Rocket Pod
LAU-10/A Rocket Pod
-----------------------default f4 db

we have more:
------------------
Mk118
AIM-4, four variants.
SUU-14A
Pave Knife
Pave Spike
BLU28?
more mk81/82 bomb variants

This is directly from Shawn Agne the SP database guru. This is what we will have on SP4 for Vietnam:

F-105D (4 texture sets)
F-100D (4 texture sets)
A-4E
A-1H
along with the F-4's and B-52D in SP3

Mike Rivers is working on the F-8 Crusader, and Quake is structuring F-102.
---

So it looks good for Vietnam, thanks for Shawn and the rest of the people behind these aircrafts.

PMC TFW
Snake Man

Actually Vnam will got more than that. tons of air-borne wpn has been added. sure, vnam-era warwships!

what about huey gunships or hueys with doors open? What about NVA, ARVN and US Army having squads made up of only soldiers (M16 and AK47,) and without other vehicles?

quote:Originally posted by snowball:
what about huey gunships or hueys with doors open? What about NVA, ARVN and US Army having squads made up of only soldiers (M16 and AK47,) and without other vehicles?

I'm afraid none of those have been made.

PMC TFW
Snake Man

80% of Nam 3d stuff done.

BTW.. did A-4B or A-4C operate during early stage of Nam war?

a4c served on kitty hawk,bon homme richard
a4e on ticondaroga constellation
a4b on kearsarge ranger
a4c on handcock
a4c and a4e on coral sea and midway

this all was in 1964-65

info from carriers air power at sea
an air forces monthly and flypast special
www.keypublishing.com

Thanx, will fill B and C slots ASAP!

quote:Originally posted by ccc:
F-4G(as B/C/D model, no gun)

Are gunpods going to be modelled in SP4? I think in 1967 or 69, the USAF fitted their F-4 Phantoms with an M61(i think) gunpod.

gunpod won't work correctly in SP4.. it needs code edits.

my last try is treating gunpod as rocket pod, 10 bullets as one rocket.. the rocket FM needs some tweaks, it flies really fast but go upward!!

how about use a gunpod as default part of the model, then setup the gunlocation in the FM?

quote:Originally posted by Ender Wiggin:
how about use a gunpod as default part of the model, then setup the gunlocation in the FM?

Then it won't be "gun pod".. slot(s) wont be able to load anything else. my 2c, Rocket pod idea is better, though i heard we can not add new rocket pods in db without code edits.

i'm no expert but...
what if we make another model or modification of an F-4 with the gunpod permanently attached in its 3D model, enable the guns on the aircraft via the database and place it in a particular squadron. That way, all the F-4s in that squadron would have this gunpod on every mission and can fire its guns, while other F-4s in other squadrons that does not have this "F-4 model with gunpod" cannot fire.

ya, if SP managers don't mind adding few more CT slots.

could make it a weapon, and make it loadout able, as a gun, havent tried it, but what could it hurt.

This thread starts since May 07, 2002.
Whatevere the progress of theater part is, we do have more 3d toys today..

** aircraft **
A-1
A-3 (as KA-3/RA-3/B-66/EB-66)
A-4B/E/M
A-5 (as RA-5C)
A-6A
A-7D/E
F-100D
F-105D
F-111
F-4B/C/D/E/RF-4C
F-5A
F-8E
C-123B
C-130H/AC-130
O-1
OV-10
Mig-17/19/21MF

** Sea **
most Vnam-era carriers

** Land **
KS-19 AAA
T-34 NVA
PT-76

** Munition **
AIM-9B/C/D/E/J
AIM-7B/E/E2/F
AIM-4A/C/D/F/G
BLU-1/-27
MK-117/-118
SUU-14A

wow!!! :p With all the aircraft available, maybe we could even make a couple of T.Es depiction real missions set during the war. i.e. Gulf of Tonkin resolution- we can have A-4s with F-8s bombing Haipohong!

Can't wait until SP4 releases!

revivie an old thread with some pics..
waiting for SRTM vietnam!

how about a nice set of Thoarek' Phantoms ? F-4E, F-4D, F-4C, F-4J, F-4S, RF-4C?

Just a thought

Bitchin', CCC!

(thought I would make the remark fit the time of Vietnam....)

Very nice work CCC!

I suggest using the SRTM version of ITO2 database a start point for building the Vietnam DB.

I am slowing putting together the necessary *.xls spreadsheets to identify things. It is a real shame that the info on the database hasn't been documented in detail to be able deconflict things - find all the unused stuff.

Once that process is complete, which may take a little while - being able to build up new databases should be much easier.

Any new models or new shots?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weapons_of_the_Vietnam_War

i think most major combat vehicles are done. check your F4 database.

the work left is database editing.

Thanks CCC, This is the good news. All the models for VN theater are ready. Hope we can see all those models work in VN theater.

You should supply those models to RV and OF teams so they can implement them in the future releases.